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#1 2006-02-01 22:28:49

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FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Hey guys,

I've got some problems with the correct configuration of my X.
So I hope you are able to help me.


I've installed the fglrx-driver for my "ATI RADEON MOBILITY X700" with the graphical installer from ATI. So I edit my xorg.conf, that X would use the fglrx driver. Now I was very glad to see my X running. But if i want to change to the vc/1 for example ( [STRG] + [ALT] + [F1] ) the screen went black and there are no chance to get a sign of life from my notebook. The same problem appears when I try to kill X ( [STRG] + [ALT] + [BACKSPACE] ).

Here the last lines of "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"

Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0

So it seems that the driver couldn't load the fonts for the console anymore. But why can't I return back to the graphicalmode ( [STRG] + [ALT] + [F7] ) ?


Some more mysterious things:
After this I tried to creat a new xorg.conf by flgrxconfig ... But there is no such program! I thougt it would be installed by the graphical installer. I am right?


Thanks, greetings and a big sorry for my bad bad english,
phxx


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#2 2006-02-02 03:25:13

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

fglrxconfig is, for whatever reason, not present in the newest ATI graphical installer.  Check out aticonfig.

Freeze issue is a bug in the drivers when used with the 2.6.15 kernel.  There's a patch available, and a PKGBUILD for Ati-drivers for the stock ARCH kernel in the AUR that uses this patch, last I checked.

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#3 2006-02-02 18:38:18

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Thanks so far. My first use of ABS was a successfull one smile ... nearly.

The package 'ati-drivers-arch-8.21.7-2.pkg.tar.gz' was built correctley. But when i try to install it, following errors appeared.

loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts...
error: the following file conflicts were found:
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrx_xgamma: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxinfo: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/fglrx_gamma.h: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/libaticonfig.a: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_gamma.a: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_gamma.so.1.0: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_pp.a: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/include/GL/glATI.h: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/include/GL/glxATI.h: exists in filesystem
  ati-drivers-arch: /usr/share/icons/ati.xpm: exists in filesystem


errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Is it a problem that I have installed the drivers by the gui-installer before I tried to build this package?


Sorry, if there are similiar threads ... give me a hint. I didn't found them.
phxx


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#4 2006-02-02 19:31:37

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Yeah, those files are the ones installed by the graphical installer.  I don't think you should have a problem overwriting them:

pacman -Af ati-drivers-arch-8.21.7-2.pkg.tar.gz

will force the install.

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#5 2006-02-02 21:04:53

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Thanks!

The output after installing the package:

loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts... done.
installing ati-drivers-arch... done.
PLEASE NOTE:
ATI drivers do not function with the stock Arch Linux kernel.
To function the drivers require agp support build as a module.
for more information please see
  http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------
You can use the tool 'fglrxconfig' to generate an xorg.conf file.
Remember to add fglrx to the MODULES list in /etc/rc.conf.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Backing up xorg OpenGl lib /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to
  /usr/X11R6/lib/xorg.libGL.so.1.2

So there is something about an AGP module ...
'modprobe agp' doesn't affect anything.

I've played a bit with the xorg.conf but no results ... :-(

Anymore ideas?

BIG THANK YOU to you, Cerebral.


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#6 2006-02-02 22:00:02

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

AGP Module is usually agpgart and some motherboard-specific AGP driver, like via_agp or nvidia_agp.
Try an

lsmod | grep agp

to see if any AGP modules are listed.
I'm wondering why the message of "Won't work with stock kernel" was left in the package built FOR the stock kernel...

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#7 2006-02-05 18:41:06

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

$ lsmod | grep agp
intel_agp              21404  1
agpgart                29904  2 intel_agp,fglrx

:-(


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#8 2006-02-05 20:10:48

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

phxx wrote:
$ lsmod | grep agp
intel_agp              21404  1
agpgart                29904  2 intel_agp,fglrx

Okay, looks like all your kernel modules are loaded fine.

What's the problem you're having?

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#9 2006-02-05 20:53:45

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

The same as at beginning:

If I change the console from graphicalmode to vc/1 for example [STRG]+[ALT]+[F1] the screen became black and freeze. I can't get back to X [F7] and can't shutdown the computer blind.
Driver is running, Modules are loaded, X looks great ... just this little Problem.

Sorry, for all these questions. But Arch seems to be the first Distro which make my dreams come true  wink

Thanks for all so far.
I hope we can solve this problem.

phxx


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#10 2006-02-05 21:57:27

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

I've also recently started having this problem again... seems the patch doesn't fix it completely.  I actually downgraded to kernel 2.6.14 and re-packaged/re-installed ATI's drivers for that kernel just to get rid of the problem. 

I'm going to be waiting until the next version before I try upgrading again

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#11 2006-02-05 22:10:24

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Ok.

But at last step: Could you please explain me how to downgrade my kernel. Must I compile it by myself?

phxx


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#12 2006-02-05 23:06:28

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

There may be an old kernel version in /var/cache/pacman/pkg that you can revert to (if you upgraded from 2.6.14 recently) -- this is what I did.
Note: If you're using udev/initscripts from [testing], you'll have to revert them too.  They only work with 2.6.15

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#13 2006-02-06 07:31:38

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig


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#14 2006-02-06 14:30:54

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

No errors during the installation.
BUT doesn't work in any way.


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#15 2006-02-06 21:52:09

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

phxx, after you downgrade your kernel, make sure you quit X entirely, then do

rmmod fglrx

then make sure your package for ati-drivers is built for 2.6.14 kernels, and reinstall it.

Also, this might interest you:
ATI fglrx Xorg 6.8 / 7.0 Kernel-Independent Packages

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#16 2006-02-08 18:14:14

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

hmm .. i've installed from a noodle cdrom, so the kernel i've installed from is 2.6.15-ARCH  :?
Do you know whether the driver will work with the ArchCK Kernel?

phxx


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#17 2006-02-08 18:46:26

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

I'm using the driver version 8.20.8 with 2.6.14-archck and it's working fine.

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#18 2006-02-08 19:40:02

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Think I am stupid, but naturally I am called newbie ;-)

Where can I get these versions of the kernel and the driver?
I checked iphitus homepage, but there are just patches released and no built kernels.

phxx


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#19 2006-02-08 20:15:16

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Eh, you're not stupid, just inexperienced.
You can get kernel26archck packages in the [community] repo (along with ati-drivers and ati-drivers-arch, for that matter), but they're all the latest versions there. 

As far as getting an old kernel package; if you don't have one cached on your hard drive (since you installed new) then I really don't know where you'd find one... every downgrade I've done has been to a version pacman cached on my HDD.  I imagine they must be somewhere, but I don't know.

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#20 2006-02-08 20:43:08

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Ok, it seems i'm really just a newbie smile

Yes, i had never installed a 2.6.14 or lower Kernel (I've used the noodle installation disc^^) and (unfortunately) your right ... there are just the latest versions.

Would it be a possibility that you send me your kernel package? ... If I'm right, there should be appear no problems. This would be the same like using the official repository but few weeks ago.

Thanks,
phxx


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#21 2006-02-08 21:16:46

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

phxx wrote:

Would it be a possibility that you send me your kernel package?

I'm trying to FTP it up to a server I know right now.  I'll PM you with the URL (as I have limited bandwidth) when it's uploaded.

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#22 2006-02-08 23:02:22

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Hi! I'm also stuck with this ATI issue (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=18628)
I think I have a bad news... sad Just read this:
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=102

Many people have the same problem and it hasn't been solved yet (after whole year!!!)

sad:(:(

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#23 2006-02-09 12:25:27

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

creo: But the bug they describe on the bugtracker is a bit diffrent. Our Problem is reproducible, their's is a random event in a time span between minutes and weeks...

Also it should work with the right kernel (like Cerebral described). So it is a combination of kernel and driver issues. I hope it will disappear with the next Kernelversion.

phxx


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#24 2006-02-09 17:13:31

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

I think I've found the solution :mrgreen:

Here is the recipe:
1. Install kernel 2.6.14-5-ARCH and reboot.
2. Install Xorg 7.0 from testing and follow Cerebral's tutorial.
3. Use ati-drivers script/package created also by Cerebral. Because I used 8.20.8 ATI's run script, I had to change PKGBUILD a little:

pkgver=8.20.8
...
#patch -p1 < $startdir/src/fglrx_with_2.6.15.patch

I switched many times to vc and back to X and get no hang smile

BTW: Cerebral, you've done a good work - Thanks a lot smile  8)

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#25 2006-02-09 19:39:06

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Re: FGLRX: Changing to vc/1 -> Blackscreen | No flgrxconfig

Sorry, still the same sad After few system reboots X hangs out by switching.

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