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#1 2014-04-06 08:43:04

Nor9864
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Games crashing x?

So basically, when I try to run certain games, my computer just freezes. It usually makes the display go crazy (http://i.imgur.com/NVhBTFV.jpg) and then locks up. If I'm able to go into the TTY(Or what I think is a TTY), the nouveau driver says that the GPU locked up. The computer will then refuse to do anything, sometimes I'm able to use control alt delete to log out, but usually I have to do a hard reset.

I'm also getting quite poor performance out of my card, compared to what I get on Windows. Don't know if that's relevant, but it'd be nice to sort that out too.

Everything is updated, I'm running the Noveau nvidia drivers, with KDE as the DE. My GPU is an Nvidia GTX 555, pretty much the same thing as a 560 SE Or a GT 645.

The games that I've tried(from Steam) that have done this is FTL and Kerbal Space Program. At first, I thought it had something to do with FTL code or something similar, but if this happens in other games too, it might be my system.

Any help would be really appreciated!

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#2 2014-04-06 13:43:49

Kalrish
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Re: Games crashing x?

Unfortunately, NVIDIA GPUs are not very well supported by the Nouveau driver at this moment, which not only is often unstable, but also lacks support for reclocking (power management), a key feature that is needed to leverage the real power of modern cards, as they boot in very low clocks.

My suggestion is to give a look from time to time to Phoronix, which closely covers open-source graphics development, and to use a Git version of the kernel and Mesa, or, at least, keep them up to date.

Also, perhaps you could consider using the propietary driver. (I know very little about it, though, so I can't be of any help here. There's a wiki page about it.)

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#3 2014-04-06 14:07:04

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Re: Games crashing x?

I would go with the proprietary nVidia driver for anything 3D with an nVidia card, just because past experience has shown me that the proprietary is better than Open Source for 3D work and gaming.


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#4 2014-04-06 14:27:21

Nor9864
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Re: Games crashing x?

Thanks for your replies! Unfortunately, when I went off to unintsall the nouveau drivers and then install the proprietary ones, it wouldn't do it.(No, there was no xserver running) More specifically, yaourt told me it needed to get rid of mesa-libgl, something that it wouldn't do. So I ordered pacman to unintall it, using -Rsc , and it wanted to uninstall pretty much every single package that's on my system.  So basically, that package it needs to remove will pretty much get rid of all the packages I have installed, most of them seemed to be linked to KDE. Firefox was in there, you get the idea.

I reinstalled the nouveau drivers, and now it's like nothing happened. What can I do? The Wiki doesn't say much about going from nouveau  to propietrary. Not much as in nothing.

What can I do? Will I have to reinstall everything?

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#5 2014-04-06 14:45:12

Kalrish
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Re: Games crashing x?

I'm just guessing, but perhaps you should just switch the provider of libgl from mesa-libgl to nvidia-libgl. Also, are you building the packages yourself? Have you tried installing the ones that are offered in the official repositories?

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#6 2014-04-06 14:46:39

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Re: Games crashing x?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NV … au_drivers

Just do the first part? (Don't forget to uncomment the lib32 parts if on 64bit Arch)

Bit of a summary if you care, the script removes nouveau and mesa-libgl without removing dependant packages (read up on pacman -Rdds) and then installs the nvidia driver with its own libgl implementation, which is the same for what applications care for

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#7 2014-04-06 14:49:04

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Re: Games crashing x?

Another explanation might be found here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=166488 or similair here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171940

The search function on the forums can be a very useful tool.

Last edited by bgc1954 (2014-04-06 14:49:52)


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#8 2014-04-10 12:41:15

Nor9864
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Re: Games crashing x?

Oh. As it turns out, I was installing the wrong driver. Now I feel... stupid. I apologize for wasting you guys' time.

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