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#1 2014-05-02 01:55:37

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no icons when right clicking within applications

greetings,

I run Xfce with lxdm as the dm. One thing I haven't been able to figure out is why I have no icons when accessing features within certain applications. Some of those applications include: qBittorrent, VirtualBox, and perhaps a couple of others I can't remember right now. I am using F-Dark-Black icon theme, which I installed from the AUR, thought switching to another seemed to have no effect.

Is there some additional icon pack I need to install, or what?

please help


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#2 2014-05-02 06:07:48

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

the apps you mention are using qt for the gui.
qt does not use gnome/gtk icon themes, but it should use its own icons.
so you should check if you have qt icons, or if sth went wrong when installing qt.
i never had an issue with it, qt always seems to install some default icon theme when installed.

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#3 2014-05-02 08:01:52

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

ondoho wrote:

the apps you mention are using qt for the gui.
qt does not use gnome/gtk icon themes, but it should use its own icons.
so you should check if you have qt icons, or if sth went wrong when installing qt.
i never had an issue with it, qt always seems to install some default icon theme when installed.

I have the Oxygen Iconset, but I don't imagine you're talking about that.


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#4 2014-05-02 14:05:46

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

i'm sorry, this must sound very confusing.
qt is a toolkit for building gui applications, just like gtk.
i think gtk is the most common on linux systems, and the icon themes we are using are basically part of that system.
qt is a cross-platform toolkit and uses its own resources; the icon theme you mentioned/installed does not necessarily apply to qt apps.

some apps also require you to restart the Xsession for changes to take effect.

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#5 2014-05-02 21:53:42

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

ondoho wrote:

i'm sorry, this must sound very confusing.
qt is a toolkit for building gui applications, just like gtk.
i think gtk is the most common on linux systems, and the icon themes we are using are basically part of that system.
qt is a cross-platform toolkit and uses its own resources; the icon theme you mentioned/installed does not necessarily apply to qt apps.

some apps also require you to restart the Xsession for changes to take effect.

No, I get all of that. I've just noticed that Vanilla Arch is the only distro where the icons have been missing. I've got all the Qt developer's tools. I remember reading somewhere (presumably on the ArchWiki) that the feature I'm talking about is intentionally disabled by default. I've enabled gtk theming on qt-config, which makes the applications conform in terms of over-all look, but I can't remember for the life of me how to enable the icons. I thought maybe there was a package I needed to install.


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#6 2014-05-02 23:51:39

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#7 2014-05-03 03:35:35

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

That fix worked like a charm! That little fix is about as obscure as it gets. That forum entry is from 2011! Why in God's name isn't this fixed. This also needs to be added to the ArchWiki page for Xfce since they seem to have no interest in fixing it.


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#8 2014-05-03 03:48:41

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

I just added an entry to the Troubleshooting section of the Xfce page on the ArchWiki, providing those two commands.


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#9 2014-05-03 07:55:08

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

are other, non-qt apps displaying differently now? gtk apps?

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#10 2014-05-03 08:02:08

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

ondoho wrote:

are other, non-qt apps displaying differently now? gtk apps?

I haven't noticed anything but VirtualBox, and qbittorrent. The gtk apps always looked fine. It's a bit irritating that Xfce hasn't  fixed this.
It seems like a no-brainer to me. But then again, Xfce isn't qt. Not even close. Oh well....I put it on the Wiki, so the info is out there now. It worked great. Didn't even have to be run as root.

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#11 2014-05-03 08:11:52

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

no, i meant are they displaying differently now that you did the gconftool thing?

btw, i don't like xfce but calling their developers asinine is not ok.

and you yourself pointed out that in the end this is not an issue with xfce but with qt.

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#12 2014-05-03 15:31:32

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Re: no icons when right clicking within applications

ondoho wrote:

no, i meant are they displaying differently now that you did the gconftool thing?

btw, i don't like xfce but calling their developers asinine is not ok.

and you yourself pointed out that in the end this is not an issue with xfce but with qt.

I know what you meant. And I wasn't calling anyone anything. I answered your question; I hadn't noticed anything except qbittorrent, and VirtualBox. After I applied the fix, both applications looked fine. I am thankful for the information.

To clarify: I wasn't calling anyone asinine. I merely meant having to apply an obscure fix to something that's been going on for three years was a little irritating. I'm sorry that you miss-understood. I wasn't calling anyone a name. I was referring to an abstract concept.

Now, once again; I haven't noticed any other differences, but then again I think those are the only two programs that I was having the on-going issue with. Later I may go looking for some qt stuff just to make sure.

Ok, I see what you did. You must have gone and looked up the literal meaning of the word. Again, I'm sorry for the miss-understanding. In American vernacular, the definitions to some words can get skewed slightly to be used in other contexts. It's just part of out un-organized slang. I edited the comment, and removed the word to prevent any future miss-understanding.

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