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#1 2014-06-13 14:47:28

oreggin
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linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Hi!

At kernel.org 3.12 branch marked as "longterm". Can we change linux-lts version to that?

Cheers,
oreggin

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#2 2014-06-13 15:02:06

ewaller
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Hi, and welcome to Arch Linux.  This is the sort of question that is better asked on the mailing lists.  There is no guarantee that the appropriate people will see it here.

Also, as you did here, be sure you point out that 3.12 is slated for long term support and point out that they may want to adopt it.  If you ask in the form, "When will it be adopted" you are likely to get the requisite answer, "It will be ready when it is ready." smile


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#3 2014-06-13 15:04:24

falconindy
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

If you want a newer kernel, then don't use linux-lts. The LTS kernels follow the branch which GKH maintains. We won't be picking up 3.12 as an LTS.

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#4 2014-06-13 15:12:34

oreggin
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Thanks for the answares!

falconindy wrote:

If you want a newer kernel, then don't use linux-lts. The LTS kernels follow the branch which GKH maintains. We won't be picking up 3.12 as an LTS.

Ok, and what if i don't want to use bleeding edge linux package but linux-lts has a lack some btrfs functions? smile

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oreggin

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#5 2014-06-13 15:14:12

karol
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Compile your own kernel.

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#6 2014-06-13 15:17:09

oreggin
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

karol wrote:

Compile your own kernel.

I changed to Arch because compiling gentoo packages too wearing to me and then bumm :-)

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#7 2014-06-13 16:15:12

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

You can't have it both ways, and you've exhausted your options. Are you paranoid, or do you have actual reasons against using the kernel that most arch users use?

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#8 2014-06-13 16:53:08

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

falconindy wrote:

If you want a newer kernel, then don't use linux-lts. The LTS kernels follow the branch which GKH maintains. We won't be picking up 3.12 as an LTS.

I guess GKH will adopt either 3.14 or 3.16 as his new longterm kernel (3.4-lts has reached the 2 year mark, now he can drop it and take a new kernel instead)


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#9 2014-06-13 18:10:48

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Shameless self-promotion of the linux-lts312 package, for which I even provide downloads for the x86_64 architecture on Google Drive.

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#10 2014-06-14 05:11:08

oreggin
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Thank you all for the replies. Now it is clear to me "newest kernel.org LTS" != "arch linux-lts", btw the mainline kernel support is great in arch but maybe i'm paranoid to use it in production environment ;-). I'll be waiting for the next linux-lts as many packages depends on it (tp_smapi-lts, nvidia-lts, etc...)

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#11 2014-06-14 18:14:11

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

oreggin wrote:

Thank you all for the replies. Now it is clear to me "newest kernel.org LTS" != "arch linux-lts", btw the mainline kernel support is great in arch but maybe i'm paranoid to use it in production environment ;-). I'll be waiting for the next linux-lts as many packages depends on it (tp_smapi-lts, nvidia-lts, etc...)

Bribe me (well, maybe not bribe me) and I might be willing to do them for the 3.12 kernel in the AUR (and I'll dump x86_64 builds in my Google Drive folder).


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#12 2014-06-15 08:10:49

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

Our plan is to move on to Greks new LTS maintained 3.14 kernel when 3.15 mainlaine kernel will hit core.

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#13 2014-06-15 10:48:32

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

AndyRTR wrote:

Our plan is to move on to Greks new LTS maintained 3.14 kernel when 3.15 mainlaine kernel will hit core.

Nice! Will AppArmor, SELinux, Tomoyo, Smack remain enabled in that LTS version? (I hope they will ...)

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#14 2014-06-15 11:02:48

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

No. We use config from core/linux with really small adjustements, no major changes like enabling Tomoyo.

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#15 2014-06-15 11:22:10

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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

AndyRTR wrote:

Our plan is to move on to Greks new LTS maintained 3.14 kernel when 3.15 mainlaine kernel will hit core.

Thanks for the heads up! I'll take on 3.10 in the AUR then when that happens.


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#16 2014-07-08 07:56:12

oreggin
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Re: linux-lts bump to 3.12.x?

AndyRTR wrote:

Our plan is to move on to Greks new LTS maintained 3.14 kernel when 3.15 mainlaine kernel will hit core.

Nice! I see it in the testing and waiting for become stable smile

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