[Solved] Why I Can Move to Arch

ANOKNUSA · 2014-07-23 15:04:39

karol wrote:

You can tell makepkg not to get any new code, there's a switch for that.
It's useful if you e.g. changed some config.h file and you don't want makepkg to download a fresh one and overwrite your changes, just build the code that's already in /src with your config.

Since shoober420 specifically mentioned st, it should also be mentioned that there's a hitch here: If you want to download the latest Git commits, you'll need to stash any changes you make to your configuration before running makepkg. I've overwritten my st and dwm configurations in the past by overlooking that.

drcouzelis · 2014-07-23 15:25:36

ANOKNUSA wrote:

Since shoober420 specifically mentioned st, it should also be mentioned that there's a hitch here: If you want to download the latest Git commits, you'll need to stash any changes you make to your configuration before running makepkg. I've overwritten my st and dwm configurations in the past by overlooking that.

Just make the changes, create a patch file out of them, and apply the patch in a PKGBUILD file.

jakobcreutzfeldt · 2014-07-23 15:32:37

karol wrote:

Gentoo and Crux are 'what you make of it' distros too.

qinohe wrote:

@karol, true but they are not as KISS as Arch is.

You're joking, right?

ANOKNUSA · 2014-07-23 15:35:10

drcouzelis wrote:

I'd like to try to replace it with a compatible screen with better quality, but i just don't know where to buy it.

That's one way (probably the smarter way, really). What I settled on was manually cloning the repo from Git and managing it myself, having the PKGBUILD just use the local directory instead of downloading anything.

karol · 2014-07-23 15:43:50

jakobcreutzfeldt wrote:

karol wrote:
Gentoo and Crux are 'what you make of it' distros too.
qinohe wrote:
@karol, true but they are not as KISS as Arch is.
You're joking, right?

Maybe he meant that Arch is simpler to manage from the lazy user's point of view.

qinohe · 2014-07-23 16:24:02

karol wrote:

jakobcreutzfeldt wrote:
karol wrote:
Gentoo and Crux are 'what you make of it' distros too.
qinohe wrote:
@karol, true but they are not as KISS as Arch is.
You're joking, right?
Maybe he meant that Arch is simpler to manage from the lazy user's point of view.

@jakobcreutzfeldt&karol: oohoh, but yes, managing Arch is a breeze, you can call me lazy..

drcouzelis · 2014-07-23 16:57:28

ANOKNUSA wrote:

drcouzelis wrote:
I'd like to try to replace it with a compatible screen with better quality, but i just don't know where to buy it.
That's one way (probably the smarter way, really). What I settled on was manually cloning the repo from Git and managing it myself, having the PKGBUILD just use the local directory instead of downloading anything.

LOL

Despite the "typo" above, yes, I understand what you mean (from both threads).

frostbittenking · 2014-07-23 17:02:26

Guess this should go in my signature: To me ., Arch is a sane compromize of Gentoo.
Arch: Nerdish/Geekish. Gentoo: Ivory Tower.

ANOKNUSA · 2014-07-24 00:33:59

Despite the "typo" above, yes, I understand what you mean (from both threads).

Note to self: Don't blindly select and middle-click quotes before the coffee kicks in...

karol · 2014-07-24 00:52:10

You should open a feature request upstream:

# systemctl start systemd-coffee
# systemctl enable systemd-coffee

Awebb · 2014-07-24 07:16:18

Can't you do this with coffeectl?

I am genuinely amazed by this thread. Somebody is not sure, whether he wants to move to Arch, because he thinks the packages are not recent enough.

Not recent enough...

jasonwryan · 2014-07-24 07:26:13

Awebb wrote:

Not recent enough...

Note to devs: must try harder...

Runiq · 2014-07-24 08:38:44

jasonwryan wrote:

Awebb wrote:
Not recent enough...

Note to devs: must try harder...

Seriously, 42% obsolete? What is this, a distro for trees?

Edit: Poe's Law requires that I add an "/s" to this post.

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karol · 2014-07-24 09:24:29

Awebb wrote:

I am genuinely amazed by this thread. Somebody is not sure, whether he wants to move to Arch, because he thinks the packages are not recent enough.
Not recent enough...

I bet he doesn't know that Arch Linux is a rolling release distro, where people want to downgrade to a previous version.

shoober420 · 2014-07-29 04:32:24

Awebb wrote:

I am genuinely amazed by this thread. Somebody is not sure, whether he wants to move to Arch, because he thinks the packages are not recent enough.
Not recent enough...

I simply misunderstood the package update information. I thought it meant the last time the package was updated, but it means the last time the pkgbuild was updated. Since the most recent version of mesa in the official arch repository is 10.2.4, I would have stuck with Xorg Edgers, which uses 10.3 of mesa. But, upon learning that Arch can grab from git repositories, that is now not a problem. There also isn't a evilwm-git. I think I'm going to have to create it. So Arch doesn't have the most recent git build of evilwm available. So no, its not recent enough.

karol wrote:

I bet he doesn't know that Arch Linux is a rolling release distro, where people want to downgrade to a previous version.

Yes, I did know Arch was rolling release. I am coming from Debain sid, which is also rolling release. So it shouldn't be a surprise that I know this. I just didn't think a package manager could grab git repository packages. That is truly amazing.

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Awebb · 2014-07-29 09:05:12

shoober420 wrote:

Awebb wrote:
I am genuinely amazed by this thread. Somebody is not sure, whether he wants to move to Arch, because he thinks the packages are not recent enough.
Not recent enough...
I simply misunderstood the package update information.

Yeah, I saw that. I was also glad to see you got it sorted out. It was just a funny moment for a long time Arch user, being struck by irony is one of my hobbies.

Morn · 2014-07-29 10:02:04

shoober420 wrote:

There also isn't a evilwm-git.

There is now! :-)

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/evilwm-git/

shoober420 · 2014-07-29 21:31:29

Morn wrote:

There is now! :-)
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/evilwm-git/

Wow, thank you so much Morn. I know evilwm might not be the most popular window manager out there, but its my favorite. dwm would have been my choice, but tiling window managers don't mix well with Steam. Its also a little bit more lightweight then dwm, since it doesn't have any sort of taskbar. Again, thank you for taking the time to create a evilwm-git. It saved me alot of time making it myself.

Slithery · 2014-07-29 21:54:14

shoober420 wrote:

I know evilwm might not be the most popular window manager out there...

If you're after a distro where the userbase prefers niche WM's, then Arch is definitely for you, check out the Community Contributions sub-forum as there's a few Archers that write their own WM.

Last edited by Slithery (2014-07-29 21:54:40)

Morn · 2014-07-30 10:16:12

shoober420 wrote:

Again, thank you for taking the time to create a evilwm-git. It saved me alot of time making it myself.

It was fairly easy to do because evilwm stable is already in AUR: Copy the PKGBUILD, set "source" to a git repo instead of a file, set the checksum to "SKIP", add git as a make dependency, add the standard pkgver() function, use $_pkgname instead of $pkgname, add "conflicts=" and "provides=", and that's pretty much it. Its no-nonsense build and package system is what makes Arch so great.

shoober420 · 2014-07-31 11:02:16

Posting from Arch Linux! Feels good man.

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