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#1 2014-07-27 22:00:52

Andy_Crowd
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[SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Hello!
I tried to make a Live CD with a desktop manager, but it freezes when I start the X server, no errors shown, I tested to with openbox and wmaker. Test environment is VMware Player.
Packages that I added to the  packages.i686:

midori
roxterm
openbox
xorg-twm
xorg-bdftopcf
xorg-font-util
xorg-font-utils
xorg-fonts-100dpi
xorg-fonts-75dpi
xorg-fonts-alias
xorg-fonts-encodings
xorg-fonts-misc
xorg-fonts-type1
xorg-iceauth
xorg-luit
xorg-mkfontdir
xorg-mkfontscale
xorg-server
xorg-server-common
xorg-server-devel
xorg-setxkbmap
xorg-util-macros
xorg-xauth
xorg-xinit
xorg-xkbcomp
xorg-xlsfonts
xorg-xmessage
xorg-xrdb
xorg-xset
xf86-video-vesa
mesa

I also used my own language configurations for console and Xorg in Live CD.

Last edited by Andy_Crowd (2014-07-28 20:14:13)


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#2 2014-07-27 22:33:11

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Back to the drawing board;) Setting up your own ISO means over and over and again, your never really done.
But what's most important to understand of making an ISO with a working system on it, it has to mirror a real system very close, for most parts.
So, my advice is to look at your own package list and configs, and take that to your ISO, for starters.
Can't help you with VMware, I use qemu.

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#3 2014-07-28 08:45:19

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Is it possible to disable Xorg logging and how?


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#4 2014-07-28 08:47:17

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Why would you do that, what's the gain?

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#5 2014-07-28 08:56:54

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

I think that when it cannot create a log then it freezes.


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#6 2014-07-28 09:01:21

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Andy_Crowd wrote:

I think that when it cannot create a log then it freezes.

Huh, what do you mean, are they created or not? What freeze?

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#7 2014-07-28 09:22:47

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

xorg creating a log file in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It might be not logging but still how to disable it, may save a more free RAM memory?
Freezes X server, it freezes when it is done with all checks and beginning load a desktop manager, twm or openbox. I am staring them with a command line like:startx /usr/bin/twm


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#8 2014-07-28 09:34:55

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

Ah, first question, it is probably nothing/little you save, leave it on.
Well, like I said in #2, back to the drawing board, I can tell you this, my first ISO I was satisfied with, cost me at least a few weeks to create.

Maybe if you tell us a little more about your 'workflow' creating the ISO, you will attract more people how who can help you. you're sparse on info!

Last edited by qinohe (2014-07-28 09:37:17)

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#9 2014-07-28 09:47:06

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

I just added those packages config files for keyboard lanuage from above and nothing more.
When you did your live CD, did you made it with a Window Manager or just for the console?


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#10 2014-07-28 09:49:56

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

No, that's what I'm asking you, what is your work flow.

edit: in other words: tell us how you are creating it.

Last edited by qinohe (2014-07-28 09:52:43)

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#11 2014-07-28 10:04:50

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

I follow this guide archiso and I am using releng profile. then starting build.sh in that folder, it builds a whole image.

0) Following the guide.
1) Adding a list of the xrog and a window manager (twm/openbox) packages to the  packages.i686 file in the releng directory.
2) Adding config files for the language.
3) Running the build.sh from the releng directory.


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#12 2014-07-28 10:25:00

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

That's better, I already thought you did it this way, but wasn't sure.
Tip: always try to tell the whole story, not parts.

So using archiso is in fact the same as building your own system, with minor differences like etc/skel, a file that works like a skeleton for your home files.

Do a

pacman -Qqe > paclist

on your own system, work from there. Use it as a base to work from, like what you want to add to releng/packages.

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#13 2014-07-28 12:29:57

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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

qinohe wrote:

Tip: always try to tell the whole story, not parts.

Agreed.  Andy_Crowd, your threads (at least recent ones) have been plagued by this issue.  It would be in your interest to remedy this quickly before there is no one left in this community who will bother responding to your posts.


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#14 2014-07-28 20:13:42

Andy_Crowd
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Re: [SOLVED]Live CD + Window Manager

I had to add the "xf86-video-vmware" driver to make it start correctly in the VMware without freezing when starting the X server.
And now I know that it is not enough to use the generic driver as a vesa.

Thanks for your help anyway!

And I added a note about this to the arch wiki Build_the_ISO, in case if someone else will run into this problem.

Last edited by Andy_Crowd (2014-07-28 20:35:10)


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