Xorg crashes when Thunar views /tmp folder

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-02 19:29:44

After I upgraded to Xorg 1.16.0-6 yesterday and restarted, whenever I open Thunar and go to the /tmp folder, Xorg crashes and the system becomes completely unresponsive (for instance, the sound from banshee infinitely stutters on a single sample). I have to hard reboot the system to regain use. It doesn't appear to occur with any other folder, and removing the thumbnailer didn't help. Checking Xorg.0.log.old in /var/log shows it segfaults when this happens. I am using the Radeon open-source drivers with a Radeon HD 7310. (This occurs both with the standard Arch kernels as well as the -ck kernel I use most of the time). Any suggestions?

headkase · 2014-08-02 19:31:52

I'm using Xfce and with Thunar went to my /tmp folder. No crash.

Edit: and a fully up-to-date system, including X 1.16:

extra/xorg-server 1.16.0-6 (xorg)

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headkase · 2014-08-02 19:35:03

Also, now may be the time to enable REISUB:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke … uts#Kernel

So you have a clean way to shut down your system in case of a freeze.

emeres · 2014-08-02 21:44:45

"Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring".

I assume you mount /tmp as tmpfs. Are you mounting /tmp in any special way? Try mounting something else as tmpfs and open it with Thunar.

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-02 22:43:49

I am using tmpfs for /tmp. I went to check /run/user/1000 which is also mounted with tmpfs, went to /run... and that also crashed it. Unfortunatly, REISUB is less than of use on a computer without a SysRq key or equivelent.

EDIT: /tmp is mounted tmpfs with nodev and nosuid. ls-ing it from a command prompt doesn't cause any issues.

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GourdCaptain · 2014-08-02 22:57:57

None of the same stuff crashes if I use pcmanfm instead. This is probably a graphics driver issue...

emeres · 2014-08-03 00:29:21

GourdCaptain wrote:

None of the same stuff crashes if I use pcmanfm instead. This is probably a graphics driver issue...

How so? You could run Thunar with strace, to see what it is doing. I would have tried gvfs-git, since Thunar has it as optional dependency, you most probably have it installed, however since pcmanfm does work and also relies on gvfs, this is probably a dead end. There is thunar-git and thunar-extended in aur, you might want to try them out.

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headkase · 2014-08-03 01:17:13

GourdCaptain wrote:

I am using tmpfs for /tmp. I went to check /run/user/1000 which is also mounted with tmpfs, went to /run... and that also crashed it. Unfortunatly, REISUB is less than of use on a computer without a SysRq key or equivelent.
EDIT: /tmp is mounted tmpfs with nodev and nosuid. ls-ing it from a command prompt doesn't cause any issues.

If your system doesn't have a SysReq key then you hold Alt + Print Screen for each of the letters of REISUB with about a second or two between each letter.

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-03 05:22:10

headkase wrote:

GourdCaptain wrote:
I am using tmpfs for /tmp. I went to check /run/user/1000 which is also mounted with tmpfs, went to /run... and that also crashed it. Unfortunatly, REISUB is less than of use on a computer without a SysRq key or equivelent.
EDIT: /tmp is mounted tmpfs with nodev and nosuid. ls-ing it from a command prompt doesn't cause any issues.
If your system doesn't have a SysReq key then you hold Alt + Print Screen for each of the letters of REISUB with about a second or two between each letter.

Huh. I tried that after enabling it as specified both with and without Fn (it doesn't say Fn+PrtSc = SysRq, but no harm in trying) and it still didn't work.

headkase · 2014-08-03 05:23:34

Laptop? I believe you need Fn + Alt Gr (right alt) + Print Screen then each letter one by one. Hope that helps and does it!

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-03 06:18:05

Wait. It requires a specific Alt key (right alt, not left)? Why has this never been pointed out to me? I'll try it out next time I have a suitable crash (I'm using pcmanfm in part because I'm happy with it for now and I don't feel like messing around with thunar-git versions out of sync with the rest of my XFCE install.)

It helps that pcmanfm has thumbnailing support for images and such without requiring tumblerd, which is the most kill-needing piece of software I've ever had to deal with. (It either crashes and consumes the CPU, won't stop rethumbnailing a file being downloaded or edited, or such ALL THE TIME for me.)

emeres · 2014-08-03 09:08:19

There is also spacefm, which is forked from pcmanfm.

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-03 18:16:23

Spacefm's a bit too cluttered for me. About the only thing from Thunar I'm missing in pcmanfm is removable devices showing up as seperate trees in the tree mode.

emeres · 2014-08-03 18:22:31

You can always change the interface in design mode.

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-03 19:21:06

Giving it a second shot, while the customization interface is a tad unintuitive, it's giving promising results once I figured out what to do. Thanks!

emeres · 2014-08-03 19:29:00

And if that does not work, you can always code your own or modify the existing manager. You are welcome.

GourdCaptain · 2014-08-04 20:35:32

For another data point, my other laptop (which I don't use much for various reasons when I'm not at college) doesn't crash in similar situations, and it's using the Nouveau drivers for a NVIDIA Geforce 9600M. If anyone else has a similar Radeon card (I think Northern Islands?) on open-source drivers who can check this one to see if it's card specific, that'd be cool.

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