Xorg7 - system freezing [split]

cogo · 2006-02-21 10:57:36

Just updated to Xorg7, did some changes in xorg.conf and gdm.conf. Now it starts x and lets med log in to kde. After some seconds, everything freezes. The mouse freezes, keyboard does not respond and so forth. I could sure use some help here.

cogo · 2006-02-21 11:03:24

Now it does not even start up gdm. All daemons start, and when gdm tries to start, the machine just hangs...

T-Dawg · 2006-02-21 11:11:27

split from xorg7 announcements thread.

T-Dawg · 2006-02-21 11:14:08

_Gandalf_ wrote:

cogo have you tried to do pacman -S gdm ???

cogo · 2006-02-21 11:24:54

Yes, just did that. Now it lets me login to kde, but it hangs after a few seconds.

edit: The title of this thread is not accurate. The computer freezes ... not only the mouse and keyboard.

edit2: Just checked the Xorg.0.log file in /var/log/ and there are no Errors (lines that start with (EE)).

cogo · 2006-02-21 11:48:07

I just reinstalled the kde group, and things are looking better now.

cogo · 2006-02-21 11:53:35

Oh man! After some minutes, the computer froze again! This is really starting to get annoying. Can someone help out here?

T-Dawg · 2006-02-21 11:59:11

do you have kdebase-3.5.1-4 installed? It may help if you posted xorg.config (minus the comments to keep it short) and the last bit of your pacman.log when you did the updgrade.

cogo · 2006-02-21 12:11:23

Yes, I have kdebase-3.5.1-4 installed. Below is my xorg.conf file:

Section "Module"
    Load        "dbe"      # Double buffer extension
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
    Load       "glx"
EndSection
Section "Files"
    RgbPath    "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
    ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier    "Keyboard1"
    Driver    "kbd"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout"    "no"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier    "Mouse1"
    Driver    "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/input/mice"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "My Monitor"
    HorizSync   31.5 - 48.5
    VertRefresh 50-90
EndSection
Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Standard VGA"
    VendorName    "Unknown"
    BoardName    "Unknown"
    Driver     "vga"
EndSection
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "** ATI (generic)                      [ati]"
    Driver      "ati"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "** ATI (generic)                      [ati]"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultDepth 24
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"
    Screen "Screen 1"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

cogo · 2006-02-21 12:13:01

The last line in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file is:

FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

Maybe that causes the error? There are no (EE) lines in the log file.

T-Dawg · 2006-02-21 12:32:18

I get that same error as well but everything works for me. Your config looks fine.

Here are the packages I had to install to get everything working, maybe it will help:
libxdamage
libxss
libxrender
xf86-video-ati
xf86-input-keyboard
xf86-input-mice
ttf-bitstream-vera (removed and reinstalled)
xorg-fonts-75dpi

Mr Green · 2006-02-21 12:59:00

tried all that Mr.P but x drops out with that error :? ...

cogo · 2006-02-21 12:59:37

Now I reinstalled all the packages you mentioned (you misspelled mouse). GDM starts, I can log into KDE, and after a minute the machine hangs. After some seconds the fan start to spin faster (I use a laptop), so I guess a process is hogging all the cpu.

cogo · 2006-02-21 13:10:42

My system is now up and running. Last time it hung it was shortly after I started mozilla-thunderbird ... could there be some problems with the xulrunner or mozilla-* packages?

T-Dawg · 2006-02-21 13:19:55

its possible they may need to be rebuilt. I would run abs and rebuild mozilla-thunderbird and/or xulrunner, might as well...

cogo · 2006-02-21 13:56:54

Well ... now it froze when I tried an pacman -R mozilla-thunderbird.

Ater that I tried using the vesa driver instead of the ati driver and the system was up for like 5 minutes, and just suddenly froze again. I can't say that I did anything special at the moment it froze. Is there anyway I can downgrade the packages?

Mr Green · 2006-02-21 14:30:49

lets look at it from another way has anyone got xorg7 working ?

cogo · 2006-02-21 20:59:51

I have now tried to remove all xorg / kde / gnome packages, and reinstalled them. The same problem. I run startx, it fires up kde, and the system freezes. I am a n00b when it comes to debugging stuff like this. Can someone please help me along here, so I might find out what causes this problem? I have tried the vesa driver and the ati driver ... both of them make my computer freeze.

Edit: Just tried running gnome after reinstalling that as well. The computer freezes after a couple of minutes. I am pretty sure this is a xorg problem. Is there any way I can install an older version of xorg?

Daren · 2006-02-21 22:36:21

Doesn't really help, but after upgrading tonight (which did a massive amount of packages) everything seemed fine until I launched Thunderbird (which I don't always use). System completely hard-locked.

I did notice during the upgrade it did gtk2, which threw a warning/error about libxrandr and another xorg library (cannot remember which). Maybe this has something to do with it.

I'm about to retry installing gtk2 and see what happens.

cogo · 2006-02-21 22:37:33

Thanks for the tip. I will now try that as well. I am in the windows partition, and everything works fine here, so hopefully I don't have a hardware problem.

Daren · 2006-02-21 22:45:15

No joy.

It appears random, but (so far) for me it doesn't seem to affect any KDE programs (unlike yourself).. then again, I've only done the basic stuff (Kmail, Konq, Akregator, Kaffeine playing a video file was completely fine)

Tbird ran fine, closed it, tried it again and hard locked almost instantaneously...

Problem is, the update tonight did about 250MB worth of packages, so it is gonna be difficult to trace this. Guess we'll see over the next few days if other's have similiar problems.

cogo · 2006-02-21 22:51:53

I am posting from firefox in linux now, and so far it has gone ok. I just started thunderbird a couple of times, and I'm still alive!!

Reinstalled gtk and gtk2.

Sorry to hear that you have the same problem Daren, but I'm glad someone else had the same problem.

edit: Back in windows. Seconds after I posted, the machine hung.

JGC · 2006-02-21 22:58:20

With these kind of problems, it's always good to generate a new configuration file using Xorg -configure.
I have tried the opensource ATI drivers on my own box with a Radeon 8500LE, it worked fine, except for buggy OpenGL. On my job I have a cursed machine with a Radeon X550 which has to use the non-free fglrx drivers. Those drivers are the worst thing that can happen to a linux system

The configuration file I found in this topic lists several device sections with videocard hardware in it, try reducing it by generating a standard config.

cogo · 2006-02-21 23:00:18

I did a fresh config some minutes ago. Did not help anything. Since the machine suddenly hangs, I guess this does not get logged anywhere?

Infracephas · 2006-02-22 02:26:54

I'm also experiencing random, unexplained system crashes since I upgraded to xorg7. It occurs to me that the only thing I've added to my xorg.conf file are the glx and dri modules. I've commented those module loads out. Maybe that will fix the problem.

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