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#226 2006-02-21 20:28:49

Mikos
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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

iBertus wrote:

So, forgive me for not reading back through this entire thing, but does the fancy XGL stuff (wobbly windows, cube, expose-like thing) all only work in GNOME? If so, I fail to see how this is a great improvement for any of the rest of us poor non-GNOME users.

Zack Rusin (one of main KDE developers) is already working on kde-window-decorator for Compiz. It is in CVS, but it is fairly unfinished now (it simply doesn't work now ;-)). Don't be impatient :-)

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#227 2006-02-21 21:29:25

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

While I hate to interupt your XGL fanboying (:D), I have an issue. I run startxgl, and it starts up gnome, but when I move things arround on the desktop(or do a number of other things), the screen gets corrupted.  Screen shot 1 Screen shot 2. Any advice?
Cheers,
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#228 2006-02-21 21:35:12

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

mindtriggerz wrote:

While I hate to interupt your XGL fanboying (:D), I have an issue. I run startxgl, and it starts up gnome, but when I move things arround on the desktop, the screen gets corrupted.  I'll see if I can get a screenshot later.
Cheers,
Jesse

Is it only the display that doesn't display things correctly or is it a crash?

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#229 2006-02-21 21:46:40

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

What is your graphics card? Xgl is buggy on Intel 810, Intel 915, Via Unichrome and some ATI cards. But it will be fixed in future.

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#230 2006-02-21 22:48:13

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

i have a quick question.  I just got xgl working and i am in love.  The only problem is that my mouse wheel doesn't scroll anymore.  Is there anything special i need to do to get it working?


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#231 2006-02-21 23:32:21

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Mikos wrote:

What is your graphics card? Xgl is buggy on Intel 810, Intel 915, Via Unichrome and some ATI cards. But it will be fixed in future.

I have a GeForce 4 MX 440. I took screenshots and edited my other post. see http://mindtriggerz.net/corruption.png and http://mindtriggerz.net/corruption2.png
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lazychris2000 wrote:

i have a quick question.  I just got xgl working and i am in love.  The only problem is that my mouse wheel doesn't scroll anymore.  Is there anything special i need to do to get it working?

Change your mouse driver to "IMPS/2" in xorg.conf if it's a PS/2 mouse.


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#232 2006-02-21 23:58:14

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

davks wrote:

I have the same problem. My vga is GF6600GT AGP

Well, this should really work without problem in this case... try to look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/XGL, maybe you will find answer there...

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#233 2006-02-22 00:06:57

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

mindtriggerz & davks: Do you have 24 bit color depth in xorg.conf? This distortion can be caused by 16 bit color depth.

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#234 2006-02-22 00:59:35

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Mikos wrote:

mindtriggerz & davks: Do you have 24 bit color depth in xorg.conf? This distortion can be caused by 16 bit color depth.

I thought that might be the problem, but I double triple quadruple checked, and it's set to 24bit...


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#235 2006-02-22 06:44:56

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Are there any tools for Xgl that _don't_ require GNOME?

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#236 2006-02-22 07:47:20

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

When will xgl & compiz come to testing as a pacman build?


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#237 2006-02-22 10:32:36

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How frustrating.  Everything worked sweet compiling the PKGBUILD's up until the very last one (using the order in the text file).  compiz-cvs will not build using the PKGBUILD.

Error is :

/usr/bin/ld: warning: libXRes.so.1, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libwnck-1.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `XResQueryClientPixmapBytes'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `XResQueryClientResources'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `XResQueryExtension'


As I said, everything up until that point has compiled and installed without a problem.

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#238 2006-02-22 10:44:20

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

$ pacman -Qo ./libXRes.so.1
/usr/lib/libXRes.so.1 is owned by libxres 1.0.0-1

so... pacman -S libxres wink

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#239 2006-02-22 11:13:34

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Pajaro wrote:
$ pacman -Qo ./libXRes.so.1
/usr/lib/libXRes.so.1 is owned by libxres 1.0.0-1

so... pacman -S libxres wink

Thanks Pajaro.

OK I'm typing this from xgl.  It seems very slow.  Is there a way to check that I'm actually running it right.  I used the startxgl script.

I see no shadows or wobbly windows and everything is very slow........

using ATI fglrx driver.  when I use normal radeon driver startxgl script doesn't start.

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#240 2006-02-22 11:25:01

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

ok got it working..

I had to get rid of the composite and render stuff in Xorg.conf

It works awesome !!  Thanks guys.

FYI - I have a 256mb ATI Radeon 9550


Now I have to work out how to get the cube effects and customise shadow amounts etc?

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#241 2006-02-22 11:30:45

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

cube effect
ctrl [+ shit] + alt + right/left/clic on desktop

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#242 2006-02-22 12:44:22

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Ok..

I need some help with installing this..

1.I downloaded the xgl-abs-overlay  and extracted it to /var/abs/local/

2. I ran makepkg in glproto folder to install glproto, which created a pkg folder. I copied over everything in the package folder into correct locations.

3. ran makepkg in mesa-cvs but get an error message that I need to have glproto > 1.4...

What am I doing wrong?


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#243 2006-02-22 12:54:57

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

when u run makepkg a pacman package gets created.

you have to install it with:

 pacman -U [package].pkg.tar.gz 

the pkg directorie is what is contanained in the pacman package.... copying pkg direcotry content by yourself makes you miss the magic of arch... check documentation of pacman and abs

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#244 2006-02-22 13:04:49

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

ok I've been playing with this for last few hours.

I find that after 10minutes everything just freezes and I can't kill the xserver or change to another tty session or anything.  I have to reboot.

Is anyone elese getting this and if not - is there a fix?  There is nothing in the logs I could see.  Perhaps there is a way to log output to see what happens when it crashes?

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#245 2006-02-22 13:12:04

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Damn right...

one more question, will this install effect my xorg 7.0 in any way? if I wont be able to run xgl will I still be able to return to xorg 7.0 normally?


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#246 2006-02-22 13:14:21

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

yes, no problem.  just start it normally with startx

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#247 2006-02-22 13:57:03

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Sweet now its working, most stuff work fine. where can I read the manual of this?

One more thing, now when I open videos and try fullscreen it goes really slow..

It should be able to handle fullscreen videos.. I have dri enabled and with xorg 7.0 i get 1200fps, and with xgl I get 700fps.
any ideas?


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#248 2006-02-22 14:19:40

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

Sweet I found some of the commands:

Default plugin keyboard shortcuts

    * Switch windows = Alt + Tab
    * Arrange and View All Windows = F12 turns on or off; clicking a window will zoom it to the front
    * Switch desktops on cube = Ctrl + Alt + Left/Right Arrow
    * Switch desktops on cube - with active window following = Ctrl + Shift + Alt + Left/Right Arrow
    * Rotate cube manually = Ctrl + Alt + left-click
    * Make window translucent/opaque = currently only possible with the "transset" utility
    * Zoom-in once = Super-key right-click
    * Zoom-in manually = Super-key + wheel mouse up
    * Zoom-out manually = Super-key + wheel mouse down
    * Move window = Alt + left-click
    * Snap Move window (will stick to borders) = Ctrl + Alt + left-click
    * Resize window = Alt + right-click 

I really like the f12 function.

but what is the super-key?? it says so in Zoom-in-manually..


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#249 2006-02-22 14:23:31

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

jinn wrote:

but what is the super-key?? it says so in Zoom-in-manually..

It is the windows key.

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#250 2006-02-22 14:50:02

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Re: XGL., anyone wanna join the ride?

jinn wrote:

One more thing, now when I open videos and try fullscreen it goes really slow..

You can try "mplayer -vo gl2 video.avi", it is much faster in fullscreen than -vo xv. XV support will be improved in future versions.

Also ATI cards are worse in that (because Xgl doesn't support fbo's for XV acceleration on ATI cards now), NVidia is better...

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