[Solved] External speakers mute sound on startup

capthilts · 2012-01-20 10:28:00

g'day everyone! I'm new to the forums so quick intro: hilts, pleased!

Using archlinux for months and never had any real issues that weren't somehow solvable but i'm a bit puzzled by the following:

Using alsa and KDE and plugged in external speakers. Up until now everything worked fine but since the last update (1-2 days ago) there is no sound. And it's not about being muted, it is unmuted. So in order to solve the "no sound issue" i have to unplug the external speakers and plug 'em in again. Solved. Well, but the problem is of course why the external speakers disable the sound in the first place. Any ideas how to solve this or anybody with the same issues?

Help is greatly appreciated!

Cheers
Captn

Last edited by capthilts (2012-02-02 00:54:20)

roepi · 2012-01-25 08:19:08

Hi there.

Same here. Running Kernel 3.2.1-2-ARCH and KDE 4.7.4 with all latest updates on a Dell Latitude E6400, mostly plugged into his docking station. After a fresh boot there is no sound, when unplugging and replugging external speakers/headphone/KVM-switch-cable sound works again; very strange.
Sound used to work without hassle, it came with some update the last week(s)...

A check in alsamixer shows that neither master nor any channel is muted. For a test I uninstalled pulseaudio, no change. Just guessing, but maybe it has something to do with audio jack sense? (Where is this handled, udev? There have been some updates to udev lately.)

Any ideas how to further gather some information? Any help is welcome.
Best regards,

christoph

capthilts · 2012-01-25 20:25:25

Hey,

thx for your reply! Yea it's a pretty weird issue, i'm puzzled! I use alsa, replaced it with pulse to see whether it changes anything but nada (since you're using pulse i guess the issue has to do with audio jack or sth that handles the process...). Tried to replace jack with jack2 no changes...for the purposes of a demo i'm gonna quickly make a fresh install of arch on my laptop these next couple of days...if there's any change i'll let you know! In the meantime i'll keep trying to find a solution...

Cheers
captn

roepi · 2012-01-29 17:08:25

I had the time for some more digging, here my findings. Some more details about the environment.

$ uname -a
Linux Spiff 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
$ lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
$ cat /proc/asound/cards 
 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xf6fdc000 irq 47
$ head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
Codec: IDT 92HD71B7X

I played with some of the Audio Model names (dell-m4-1..3, although Dell laptop is not listed), but no change.
I also cross checked with a Chakra live boot, sound is working like expected. But the Chakra Project is still on kernel 3.1,

[live@chakra ~]$ uname -a
Linux chakra 3.1-CHAKRA #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 6 22:49:14 UTC 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

so I am not sure if it is a kernel or an Arch Linux issue. Searching for that sound Codec and recommended modules does not reveal much information, obviously it should work without any further configuration (as it did on my system some updates ago). The few answer might also indicate it is some special problem, as nobody else seems to have that issue. Any progress with your re-install?
Best regards,

christoph

capthilts · 2012-01-29 18:04:48

yes i just finished the reinstall yesterday and upgraded to KDE 4.8 during the process. No luck, the sound issue still persists. I have a HP netbook (dm1 1020ez) which works just fine...i run Arch kde 32bit version up to date. The computer that has issues is my laptop for work, another HP pavilion dv6. After the reinstall problem persists (Arch 64 kde).

Did you try downgrading jack? or maybe alsa...usually i always pay attention to what's being upgraded but this one time i completely missed out. If it's a kernel issue we will know soon enough i guess...i'll try some other things to get to the bottom of this, always keeping an eye on new updates in case it starts to work again...If you haven't -Sc since the problem started to emerge maybe you could try to downgrade at least everything that is related to sound, what do you think? Would be cool to identify what's causing this...really curious problem

Best regards
Captn

capthilts · 2012-02-02 00:53:52

Ok identified the problem: it's indeed the latest linux kernel which causes this weird sound problem! I've installed the linux-lts kernel and when booting everything works as it should!

Hope that helps

Cheers
Captn

curson · 2012-02-07 13:14:12

I have a very similar problem on a Sony Vaio VGC-JS2E, with pulseaudio installed. My problem is that the main speakers don't work at all, while sounds is heard as usual through the Headphones jack.

The only solution I've found is to downgrade to 3.1, as that solves the problem entirely, I'm pointing my attention to the new 3.2 kernel, but my google-fu is failing me in finding any notice of this problem around.

I'll wait and try another couple of updates, and see if it get fixed in the new kernel, as it's clearly dependent on the upgrade 3.1->3.2.

KlavKalashj · 2012-02-07 16:06:00

I think I also have a related problem on my Asus UL30a, where sound works fine when outputting to laptop internal speakers, but when outputting to HDMI, laptop internal speakers does not mute, sound comes from both. Downgrading solves it. Using pulse, hardware is intel hda.

roepi · 2012-02-10 10:17:50

The last update yesterday with a new kernel resolved the problem for me. Boot with external speakers plugged in, but sound works right away.

$ uname -a
Linux Spiff 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Thanks, best regards,

christoph

curson · 2012-02-10 18:53:39

Sadly, it doesn't resolve it for me. Even with the latest kernel (3.2.5-1-ARCH) I hear sound through the headphones, but nothing from the speakers. The only functioning kernel is 3.1.9-2-ARCH for me.

KlavKalashj · 2012-02-11 17:07:47

My problem also remains with 3.2.5. I'll stick with the LTS until 3.3 is released.

judgefudge · 2012-02-20 05:48:10

Dumb question, but did you try to remove the .pulse folder in your home? I had this issue since the last week or so.
Just tried this as sound worked with another user and now everything is back to normal.

curson · 2012-03-13 12:41:59

Is anybody still having any issues? Even on Kernel 3.2.9-1 the problem is still there, and no matter how many combination in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf I try, with regard to the model=XXXX part, I always get sound from the headphones and never from the speakers. Pulseaudio mixer control shows activity, but nothing is heard.

curson · 2012-04-10 08:20:06

Wouldn't want to necropost this into existance, but the problem presented itself to me again with the upgrade to 3.3.1. It was solved since 3.2.9-2 by adjusting alsa-base.conf option for snd-hda-intel to "sony-vaio-tt" but it is now back. Works fine with 3.2.13 though.

Any idea?

aditya3098 · 2014-09-02 03:41:23

I had this issue today on the latest stable arch, and I fixed it by adding "alsactl init" to my .xinitrc

aditya3098 · 2014-09-02 03:41:23

I had this issue today on the latest stable arch, and I fixed it by adding "alsactl init" to my .xinitrc

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