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#1 2014-09-05 02:35:50

LLStarks
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Registered: 2012-01-26
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gnome-unstable stirs once more!

http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux … os/x86_64/

Not ready for primetime, but things are building

On a related note, why doesn't Arch have an AUR package group for building all of gnome? Something like the ricotz PPAs for Ubuntu

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#2 2014-09-05 08:40:49

JGC
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I've been busy yesterday, but since GNOME 3.13.91 isn't officially released yet I decided to wait until the announcement.

At this moment the reposiroty is fairly usable, but clutter/libinput will break your system because symbols were removed (upstream didn't bump soname, so I have no way to detect what software will break here, so far mutter doesn't work anymore).

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#3 2014-09-05 13:04:09

LLStarks
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I recall atk breaking gedit so I downpinned back to 3.12

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#4 2014-09-06 01:13:43

jdbrown
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

LLStarks wrote:

I recall atk breaking gedit so I downpinned back to 3.12

Yep, gedit 3.12 need patches or it will crash.

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#5 2014-09-09 08:49:15

maslascher
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I see there is some progress, anybody tried to launch new Gnome?

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#6 2014-09-09 09:12:39

JGC
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I'm already running the repository on my system, seems to run quite stable so far. Note that vte3 has had API and ABI changes, so some applications have a rebuild pending:
- extra:
anjuta
vinagre

- community:
cairo-dock-plugins
giggle
nemiver
pantheon-terminal
remmina
roxterm
sakura
tilda

If you use one of those applications, don't install it yet.

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#7 2014-09-09 11:41:04

maslascher
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

Nicely done. Yesterday i was testing new Gnome in Fedora and it was really bad. Here on Arch it is magic comparing to Fedora, beautiful fluid animations everything seems to be very solid(comparing this is still beta), and it is like 5 times faster than previous Gnome. Great job.

@blackout- I don't have this strange lines. You tried to restart computer and set default adawaita theme? Xwayland should be dependency, at least for now. It is just me or GTK3 apps in Gnome Shell are working under Xwayland?

Last edited by maslascher (2014-09-09 16:54:05)

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#8 2014-09-09 16:26:38

blackout23
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

mutter should depend on xorg-server-xwayland, since the Wayland compositor is merged into mutter and won't launch without having Xwayland around.

Seems like a great release. I only have some strange lines in gnome-control-center.

http://i.imgur.com/rgc52I5.png

There are also some lines in the navigation bar on the left of nautilus.

I built evince 3.13.91 myself and finally can close it when maximized thanks to the CSD. smile

Last edited by blackout23 (2014-09-09 16:29:49)

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#9 2014-09-09 17:46:55

Amphitryon
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

How do I use this?  I have added the repository to /etc/pacman.conf but pacman -Syu does not update anything.  I have looked to see if there is an obvious candidate for package in the list that would pull the others in but nothing stands out.

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#10 2014-09-09 18:27:42

maslascher
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

@Amphitryon- You should put put repo before [extra] repo, pacman assumes that packages between repos don't duplicate (or different versions in this case) so it will take packages from first repo he find. That's why it won't upgrade anything.  You should guess this yourself(like I did).

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#11 2014-09-09 19:16:38

Jodell
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

blackout23 wrote:

mutter should depend on xorg-server-xwayland, since the Wayland compositor is merged into mutter and won't launch without having Xwayland around.

Seems like a great release. I only have some strange lines in gnome-control-center.

http://i.imgur.com/rgc52I5.png

There are also some lines in the navigation bar on the left of nautilus.

I built evince 3.13.91 myself and finally can close it when maximized thanks to the CSD. smile

The problem with the line could be a theme issue.  Switch to the default theme to see if the problem persists.

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#12 2014-09-09 20:27:11

blackout23
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

Jodell wrote:
blackout23 wrote:

mutter should depend on xorg-server-xwayland, since the Wayland compositor is merged into mutter and won't launch without having Xwayland around.

Seems like a great release. I only have some strange lines in gnome-control-center.

http://i.imgur.com/rgc52I5.png

There are also some lines in the navigation bar on the left of nautilus.

I built evince 3.13.91 myself and finally can close it when maximized thanks to the CSD. smile

The problem with the line could be a theme issue.  Switch to the default theme to see if the problem persists.

Yes it was a theme issue. Could have thought of this myself..... ;-)
Looks like Greybird GTK 3.12 mostly works with Gnome 3.14, though.
Only gnometweaktool looks very strange with greybird.

Last edited by blackout23 (2014-09-09 20:29:04)

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#13 2014-09-10 01:08:12

jdbrown
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

Really great indeed.

But is there anyone who see windows like gnome-control-center or nautilus dropping strange shadows like http://imgur.com/qR4hLwa.png?

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#14 2014-09-10 06:07:37

gnumdk
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

Intel driver bug... Try switch to glamor or else.

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#15 2014-09-10 06:18:26

jdbrown
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

gnumdk wrote:

Intel driver bug... Try switch to glamor or else.

Thanks, SNA is really buggy.

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#16 2014-09-10 12:52:52

Yosef Or
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

jdbrown wrote:

Really great indeed.

But is there anyone who see windows like gnome-control-center or nautilus dropping strange shadows like http://imgur.com/qR4hLwa.png?

It fixes in xf86-video-intel, build it from git (xf86-video-intel-git in AUR).
There is also bug with DIR3: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733282

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#17 2014-09-10 16:37:12

step-2
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

updated to unstable repo

and now gdm won't start , any idea's ??

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#18 2014-09-10 16:38:47

linfan
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Registered: 2004-04-23
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I experience a complete desktop freeze. The only thing I can do is a cold reboot. I use nouveau. I also experienced letters not showing up and for instance card games not showing all graphics. Seems like the mouse and keyboard stop responding. In which file could I look for errors since it does not use Xorg or at least there is nothing in Xorg.0.log?

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#19 2014-09-10 17:24:53

blackout23
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

linfan wrote:

I experience a complete desktop freeze. The only thing I can do is a cold reboot. I use nouveau. I also experienced letters not showing up and for instance card games not showing all graphics. Seems like the mouse and keyboard stop responding. In which file could I look for errors since it does not use Xorg or at least there is nothing in Xorg.0.log?

With nouveau freezes it's most likely that you'll see some nouveau kernel messages in your kernel log.

Simply use: "journalctl -k -b -X -p err" -k (only display kernel messages) -p err (only show errors) (-b -X) set X to how many reboots ago you want to filter your output. -b -1 would give you the messages filtered from the last boot.
Did you have nouveau freezes with 3.12?

If you found some nouveau errors in your kernel messages, output the complete kernel messages from this boot into a text file. "journalctl -k -b -X > dmesg.log" and put it on pastebin.com and ask the people on #nouveau @ freenode.irc.

Last edited by blackout23 (2014-09-10 17:27:32)

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#20 2014-09-10 17:29:46

fmarella
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

I don't see the cursor anymore. The input device is working because I can select blindly items. Please help!

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#21 2014-09-10 17:33:06

step-2
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Posts: 118

Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

gdm won't start
Traied xf86-video-intel-git with no luck

I get blank screen
Help please

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#22 2014-09-10 17:40:14

Jodell
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Registered: 2009-10-09
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Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

step-2 wrote:

gdm won't start
Traied xf86-video-intel-git with no luck

I get blank screen
Help please

Make sure you have cairo 1.13.1 installed.

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#23 2014-09-10 17:41:20

Jodell
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Posts: 285

Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

fmarella wrote:

I don't see the cursor anymore. The input device is working because I can select blindly items. Please help!

This may not be a Gnome issue. I've experienced the same over the last few days in enligtenment as well.

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#24 2014-09-10 17:54:23

step-2
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Registered: 2012-05-08
Posts: 118

Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

Jodell wrote:
step-2 wrote:

gdm won't start
Traied xf86-video-intel-git with no luck

I get blank screen
Help please

Make sure you have cairo 1.13.1 installed.

thanks a lot , that fixed it

also am having the cursor issue ?

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#25 2014-09-10 19:19:59

linfan
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Registered: 2004-04-23
Posts: 135

Re: gnome-unstable stirs once more!

blackout23 wrote:

Did you have nouveau freezes with 3.12?

If you found some nouveau errors in your kernel messages, output the complete kernel messages from this boot into a text file. "journalctl -k -b -X > dmesg.log" and put it on pastebin.com and ask the people on #nouveau @ freenode.irc.

Yes when i ran gnome-wayland in 3.12 the same thing happened, but not in xorg.

#nouveau on freenode.net did not have any clue, but accepted the output file. Found similar posts on google, but no solution. My gpu is [    1.039816] nouveau  [  DEVICE][0000:02:00.0] Chipset: GF116 (NVCF)

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