gnome-unstable stirs once more!

blackout23 · 2014-09-15 15:32:20

linfan wrote:

As to the cursor, I had some whiteglass ones and they work, but the adwaita-cursor-themes do not work on the panel. At to the weather-extensions, they do not even install. Just tells me they are outtdated and gives me the option to remove. Cannot find them in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions, so seems quite impossible even to edit them. Also experience horrible lags typing in firefox. Dunno what to think. But beta is beta I suppose :-)

Depending on how you installed your extensions (through the web plugin on extensions.gnome.org for example). They will be in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions

Pank · 2014-09-15 17:04:18

I'm getting this funny X error when I try to start gdm:

(EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 630 does not belong to any known session

This is using Linux 3.15.8 since Linux 3.16 has been a disaster on this system. Anyhow, with latest 3.16 I get a black screen when loading gdm.

Also, Evince and Emacs have a scary gtk error in i3 WM (I haven't tested Gnome since it ain't running).

evince: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a

Any ideas or gdm and the error?

Edit: fixed. I need to put gnome-unstable before core to update glib2. Now everything is good. It works well so far, except I'm seeing a lack when typing in Gnome Term.

Last edited by Pank (2014-09-15 23:41:36)

ooo · 2014-09-17 14:40:33

Looks like today's update breaks gnome for me, and I get the infamous 'Oh no! Something has gone wrong.' screen when starting it.
Downgrading clutter, mutter, and libinput seems to resolve the issue.

cris9288 · 2014-09-17 17:53:36

ooo wrote:

Looks like today's update breaks gnome for me, and I get the infamous 'Oh no! Something has gone wrong.' screen when starting it.
Downgrading clutter, mutter, and libinput seems to resolve the issue.

Same here. Browsing journalctl for clues...

JGC · 2014-09-18 08:06:35

Works fine here, probably you updated in the middle of the libinput soname bump.

ooo · 2014-09-18 09:45:48

JGC wrote:

Works fine here, probably you updated in the middle of the libinput soname bump.

That's what I was guessing. After today's update gnome-shell starts again.

blackout23 · 2014-09-18 12:14:09

Great looks like already fixes the bug I reported a few days ago. Should provide much improved mouse input on the Wayland session.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736413

teacha · 2014-09-18 14:03:06

Hi,
Since today's upgrade I've got some problems with icon themes. The arrow pointers in the panel use e.g. rss icons, and they are not symbolic but colorful. It happens on all icon themes (Numix Circle, Moka, & others) but it's ok on gnome's default Adwaita. I attach screenshots to clarify.
Thanks for help
Rafał

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ooo · 2014-09-18 14:17:25

@teacha, I noticed the same thing with Numix-Circle. This seems to be because 'Inherits=' in index.theme of the icon theme gets omitted by latest gnome-shell.
for example, the icons on top panel are exactly what the should when using the base Numix icon theme, but with Numix-Circle which should inherit the base Numix, it uses icons from Numix-Circle instead.

blackout23 wrote:

Should provide much improved mouse input on the Wayland session.

I noticed that as well. That was one of the biggest annoyances on wayland for me.
The memory leak that was present at least with intel hardware seems to be fixed as well.

Pank · 2014-09-18 21:24:50

Is there something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for wayland? I want scrolling on mouse-3 to seriouesly consider Gnome with Wayland.

jdbrown · 2014-09-19 03:04:47

Pank wrote:

Is there something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for wayland? I want scrolling on mouse-3 to seriouesly consider Gnome with Wayland.

No. Each compositor has it's own way of configuration. That's one aspect where wayland is totally different with X. (Like it or not, but that's the philosophy of wayland)

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blackout23 · 2014-09-19 13:31:42

jdbrown wrote:

Pank wrote:
Is there something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for wayland? I want scrolling on mouse-3 to seriouesly consider Gnome with Wayland.
No. Each compositor has it's own way of configuration. That's one aspect where wayland is totally different with X. (Like it or not, but that's the philosophy of wayland)

But every compositor uses libinput for input.

jdbrown · 2014-09-20 01:30:52

blackout23 wrote:

But every compositor uses libinput for input.

Yes, but configuration is done differently. libinput provides mechanics of handling input, but it doesn't provide ways to configure it (that's policy).

fmoralesc · 2014-09-20 19:35:07

ooo wrote:

@teacha, I noticed the same thing with Numix-Circle. This seems to be because 'Inherits=' in index.theme of the icon theme gets omitted by latest gnome-shell.
for example, the icons on top panel are exactly what the should when using the base Numix icon theme, but with Numix-Circle which should inherit the base Numix, it uses icons from Numix-Circle instead.

@ooo, Do you know of a workaround to the Inherits= issue?

ooo · 2014-09-20 20:19:16

fmoralesc wrote:

@ooo, Do you know of a workaround to the Inherits= issue?

there's a open bug report so they are on it: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737000
In the meanwhile you can download patch of the commit that broke it, and modify the PKGBUILD to revert it with 'patch -R'.
EDIT: I had already did all that so you just can download the PKGBUILD with the fix here.

Last edited by ooo (2014-09-20 20:24:48)

fmoralesc · 2014-09-20 21:01:01

@ooo: Thanks! (I read your EDIT too late, I built the shell with the fix already. )

teacha · 2014-09-20 21:53:04

Thanks ooo!

linfan · 2014-09-21 11:05:25

I had big problems with nouveau and finally got it working by switching graphics cards. According to #nouveau on freenode that was due to kernel issues. Gnome-wayland works now. I had to take out my gtx 550 TI and put int the gtx 460. And it runs very smoothly.

If I understand things correctly, only applications compiled with wayland support will work. When starting gnome-session --session=gnome-wayland

I can only view movies in gnome-mplayer but cannot go full screen on movies.
Firefox works partially, I cannot open pages from bookmarks.
Xchat cannot be edited and there is some character corruption.

These are just some of the apps I have tried. But skipping gnome-wayland and just going exec gnome-session all seems to be fine with gnome three thirteen.

blackout23 · 2014-09-21 12:05:05

linfan wrote:

I had big problems with nouveau and finally got it working by switching graphics cards. According to #nouveau on freenode that was due to kernel issues. Gnome-wayland works now. I had to take out my gtx 550 TI and put int the gtx 460. And it runs very smoothly.
If I understand things correctly, only applications compiled with wayland support will work. When starting gnome-session --session=gnome-wayland
I can only view movies in gnome-mplayer but cannot go full screen on movies.
Firefox works partially, I cannot open pages from bookmarks.
Xchat cannot be edited and there is some character corruption.
These are just some of the apps I have tried. But skipping gnome-wayland and just going exec gnome-session all seems to be fine with gnome three thirteen.

No only applications, which use toolkits that have Wayland support like GTK3, Qt5, SDL, EFL, Clutter etc. can work native on Wayland compositors by simply specifing the right backend for the toolkit via environment variable. No special compiling needed. Anything else (or applications which do some direct calls to X despite having a wayland capable backend) works on Xwayland. When you simply start the Wayland session the backend for GTK will still be GDK_BACKEND=X11 so everything launches on Xwayland. You can change that, though.

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linfan · 2014-09-21 13:20:57

How do I make session=gnome-wayland use xwayland, what do I need to do. Where to put GDK_BACKEND=X11? I would very much appreciate a simple guide. Do I put GDK_BACKEND=X11 in some file or how is it done?

swiftscythe · 2014-09-21 17:55:01

Did anyone notice that the Sharing icon has disappeared from the Gnome System Settings (aka gnome-control-center)?

tzomatz · 2014-09-22 05:40:10

Yup, its gone.

JGC · 2014-09-22 12:12:39

It's gone because some translation has corrupted the .desktop file for that panel. It's already fixed in git, so it will come back with 3.14.0

blackout23 · 2014-09-22 12:21:29

linfan wrote:

How do I make session=gnome-wayland use xwayland, what do I need to do. Where to put GDK_BACKEND=X11? I would very much appreciate a simple guide. Do I put GDK_BACKEND=X11 in some file or how is it done?

gnome-session --session=gnome-wayland automatically uses Xwayland and won't even start if you don't have Xwayland installed. If you want to start something with the native Wayland backend in GTK simply start for example "GDK_BACKEND=wayland nautilus" from terminal, which sets the environment variable for just this process. You should be able to globally set the backend in /etc/profile.d/. Some applications use multiple toolkits though, for gnome-control-center you also have to tell Clutter to use the wayland toolkit. So just setting GDK_BACKEND=wayland won't be enough. Gnome folks are still working out how to intelligently select the backend at runtime, so that applications which don't do X calls and have Wayland toolkits just the native backend and only the rest falls back to using Xwayland.

dsreyes1014 · 2014-09-22 13:09:21

JGC wrote:

It's gone because some translation has corrupted the .desktop file for that panel. It's already fixed in git, so it will come back with 3.14.0

Just curious. When will gnome 3.14 be here?

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