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kodiak

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Registered: 2012-04-26

Posts: 64

LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

This question has been asked a few times, but none of what I have found on the web worked for me. I am running plain Arch with XFCE. My console keyboard repects QWERTZ, and XFCE does also provide QWERTZ. LightDM does use QWERTY, and I do not know why the hell it does. QWERTZ is provided by German keyboard layout, and that is what I am trying to accomplish.

/etc/locale.conf 
LANG=en_US.utf8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8
LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.utf8
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8
LC_PAPER=de_DE.utf8
LC_NAME=de_DE.utf8
LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.utf8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.utf8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.utf8

localectl status
LANG=en_US.utf8
                  LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_COLLATE=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_MONETARY=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_PAPER=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_NAME=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8
                  LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.utf8
       VC Keymap: de
      X11 Layout: de
       X11 Model: pc105
     X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

cat /etc/vconsole.conf
KEYMAP=de

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf
Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "keyboard"
    MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
    Option "XkbLayout" "de"
    Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

setxkbmap -print -verbose 10
Setting verbose level to 10
locale is C
Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev...
Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev...
Success.
Applied rules from evdev:
rules:      evdev
model:      pc105
layout:     de
variant:    nodeadkeys
options:    terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwertz)
types:      complete
compat:     complete
symbols:    pc+de(nodeadkeys)+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)
geometry:   pc(pc105)
xkb_keymap {
	xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)"	};
	xkb_types     { include "complete"	};
	xkb_compat    { include "complete"	};
	xkb_symbols   { include "pc+de(nodeadkeys)+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)"	};
	xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"	};
};

cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf          
#
# General configuration
#
# start-default-seat = True to always start one seat if none are defined in the configuration
# greeter-user = User to run greeter as
# minimum-display-number = Minimum display number to use for X servers
# minimum-vt = First VT to run displays on
# lock-memory = True to prevent memory from being paged to disk
# user-authority-in-system-dir = True if session authority should be in the system location
# guest-account-script = Script to be run to setup guest account
# log-directory = Directory to log information to
# run-directory = Directory to put running state in
# cache-directory = Directory to cache to
# sessions-directory = Directory to find sessions
# remote-sessions-directory = Directory to find remote sessions
# greeters-directory = Directory to find greeters
#
[LightDM]
#start-default-seat=true
#greeter-user=lightdm
#minimum-display-number=0
minimum-vt=1
#lock-memory=true
#user-authority-in-system-dir=false
#guest-account-script=guest-account
#log-directory=/var/log/lightdm
run-directory=/run/lightdm
# by kodiak
display-setup-script=setxkbmap de
#cache-directory=/var/cache/lightdm
#sessions-directory=/usr/share/lightdm/sessions:/usr/share/xsessions
#remote-sessions-directory=/usr/share/lightdm/remote-sessions
#greeters-directory=/usr/share/lightdm/greeters:/usr/share/xgreeters

#
# Seat defaults
#
# type = Seat type (xlocal, xremote)
# xdg-seat = Seat name to set pam_systemd XDG_SEAT variable and name to pass to X server
# xserver-command = X server command to run (can also contain arguments e.g. X -special-option)
# xserver-layout = Layout to pass to X server
# xserver-config = Config file to pass to X server
# xserver-allow-tcp = True if TCP/IP connections are allowed to this X server
# xserver-share = True if the X server is shared for both greeter and session
# xserver-hostname = Hostname of X server (only for type=xremote)
# xserver-display-number = Display number of X server (only for type=xremote)
# xdmcp-manager = XDMCP manager to connect to (implies xserver-allow-tcp=true)
# xdmcp-port = XDMCP UDP/IP port to communicate on
# xdmcp-key = Authentication key to use for XDM-AUTHENTICATION-1 (stored in keys.conf)
# unity-compositor-command = Unity compositor command to run (can also contain arguments e.g. unity-system-compositor -special-option)
# unity-compositor-timeout = Number of seconds to wait for compositor to start
# greeter-session = Session to load for greeter
# greeter-hide-users = True to hide the user list
# greeter-allow-guest = True if the greeter should show a guest login option
# greeter-show-manual-login = True if the greeter should offer a manual login option
# greeter-show-remote-login = True if the greeter should offer a remote login option
# user-session = Session to load for users
# allow-guest = True if guest login is allowed
# guest-session = Session to load for guests (overrides user-session)
# session-wrapper = Wrapper script to run session with
# greeter-wrapper = Wrapper script to run greeter with
# guest-wrapper = Wrapper script to run guest sessions with
# display-setup-script = Script to run when starting a greeter session (runs as root)
# display-stopped-script = Script to run after stopping the display server (runs as root)
# greeter-setup-script = Script to run when starting a greeter (runs as root)
# session-setup-script = Script to run when starting a user session (runs as root)
# session-cleanup-script = Script to run when quitting a user session (runs as root)
# autologin-guest = True to log in as guest by default
# autologin-user = User to log in with by default (overrides autologin-guest)
# autologin-user-timeout = Number of seconds to wait before loading default user
# autologin-session = Session to load for automatic login (overrides user-session)
# autologin-in-background = True if autologin session should not be immediately activated
# exit-on-failure = True if the daemon should exit if this seat fails
#
[SeatDefaults]
#type=xlocal
#xdg-seat=seat0
#xserver-command=X
#xserver-layout=
#xserver-config=
#xserver-allow-tcp=false
#xserver-share=true
#xserver-hostname=
#xserver-display-number=
#xdmcp-manager=
#xdmcp-port=177
#xdmcp-key=
#unity-compositor-command=unity-system-compositor
#unity-compositor-timeout=60
#greeter-session=example-gtk-gnome
#greeter-hide-users=false
#greeter-allow-guest=true
#greeter-show-manual-login=false
#greeter-show-remote-login=true
#user-session=default
#allow-guest=true
#guest-session=
session-wrapper=/etc/lightdm/Xsession
#greeter-wrapper=
#guest-wrapper=
#display-setup-script=
#display-stopped-script=
#greeter-setup-script=
#session-setup-script=
#session-cleanup-script=
#autologin-guest=false
#autologin-user=
#autologin-user-timeout=0
#autologin-in-background=false
#autologin-session=UNIMPLEMENTED
#exit-on-failure=false
pam-service=lightdm-autologin

#
# Seat configuration
#
# Each seat must start with "Seat:".
# Uses settings from [SeatDefaults], any of these can be overriden by setting them in this section.
#
#[Seat:0]

#
# XDMCP Server configuration
#
# enabled = True if XDMCP connections should be allowed
# port = UDP/IP port to listen for connections on
# key = Authentication key to use for XDM-AUTHENTICATION-1 or blank to not use authentication (stored in keys.conf)
#
# The authentication key is a 56 bit DES key specified in hex as 0xnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.  Alternatively
# it can be a word and the first 7 characters are used as the key.
#
[XDMCPServer]
#enabled=false
#port=177
#key=

#
# VNC Server configuration
#
# enabled = True if VNC connections should be allowed
# command = Command to run Xvnc server with
# port = TCP/IP port to listen for connections on
# width = Width of display to use
# height = Height of display to use
# depth = Color depth of display to use
#
[VNCServer]
#enabled=false
#command=Xvnc
#port=5900
#width=1024
#height=768
#depth=8

cat /etc/X11/Xkbmap
-layout de

Anything missing?

Last edited by kodiak (2014-09-14 10:38:47)

kodiak

Member

Registered: 2012-04-26

Posts: 64

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

I have tried LXDM in the meanwhile, with the very same behaviour.

I have set all locales to "de" in case something might be guessed

$ locale
LANG=de_DE.utf8
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.utf8
LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.utf8
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.utf8
LC_PAPER=de_DE.utf8
LC_NAME=de_DE.utf8
LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.utf8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.utf8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.utf8
LC_ALL=

Setting

## if show keyboard layout select control
keyboard=1

in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf activates a keyboard-switcher, which defaults everytime to "us", but it does let me choose "de" from a very long list at least.

I also tried this one:

$cat /etc/default/keyboard 
XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="de"
XKBVARIANT="nodeadkeys"

So. what else might I try? Any ideas welcome!

Last edited by kodiak (2014-09-10 12:09:37)

kodiak

Member

Registered: 2012-04-26

Posts: 64

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

Quick update:
Once I logged in with a user a log out to re-login, the QWERTZ layout is working.

snovik

Member

Registered: 2012-05-06

Posts: 140

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

I have the same problem and realized by pure chance today that it is a layout issue (I have my office laptop in the US layout and keyboard.)

But your solution does not seem to work for me. I really have to type the password in the US layout on the GE keyboard regardless of the settings. Maybe because I have some locales in en and I am very reluctant to change and lazy to try

Well, I can login at least. Before I had to go to another tty and kick it manually which was more annoying

kodiak

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Registered: 2012-04-26

Posts: 64

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

Sorry I did not make myself clear. My last post means no solution, its rather an observation. After a reboot the login manager forgets about the keyboard layout.
I tried to set all locales to 'de' but it made no difference. On Ubuntu boxes I never had that behaviour, so where the hell gets the LM the keyboard layout out?

midixinga

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Registered: 2014-01-18

Posts: 196

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

Anything missing?

I don't know much about locale, but I can tell you my configuration:

my /etc/locale.conf is complete german

$ cat /etc/vconsole.conf
KEYMAP=de-latin1

I don't have
/etc/X11/Xkbmap

$ cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[LightDM]
minimum-vt=1
run-directory=/run/lightdm

[SeatDefaults]
allow-guest=false
autologin-guest=false
autologin-user=
greeter-session=lightdm-kde-greeter
session-wrapper=/etc/lightdm/Xsession

[VNCServer]
enabled=false

[XDMCPServer]
enabled=false

You have no greeter in lightdm.conf; you've enabled "pam-service", "display-setup-script=setxkbmap de"

and I installed acccountservice

cat /var/lib/AccountsService/users/<account>
[User]
Language=de_DE.utf8
XSession=kde-plasma
Icon=/var/lib/AccountsService/icons/<image>.png
SystemAccount=false

kodiak

Member

Registered: 2012-04-26

Posts: 64

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

Thanks midixinga, but your settings did not change the keyboard layout. And I had already installed Accountservice. Did you change your language and keyboard layout after installation of arch?

midixinga

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Registered: 2014-01-18

Posts: 196

Re: LightDM and LXDM keyboard layout QWERTY, should be QWERTZ

Thanks midixinga, but your settings did not change the keyboard layout. And I had already installed Accountservice. Did you change your language and keyboard layout after installation of arch?

sorry - no more ideas - no I didn't have to change my keyboard settings after installation