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#1 2006-03-04 05:39:25

sodface
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Registered: 2005-12-26
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FTP Installation with Minimax

I used minimax to do an Arch FTP installation.   Everything went pretty well except my /dev directory is practically empty.  I got the "can't open initial console" error initially but that went away after creating the console device file.

But /dev is still almost empty.

I've been searching and reading but I must not be searching for the right things. 

Will someone explain to me how, when, and what populates the /dev directory?  Is this process different during installation then after the first reboot?

Thanks.

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#2 2006-03-04 21:45:00

Trained.Monkey
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Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

I am Minimax creator. This problem was after booting to installed Arch? Or when you boot Minimax to cd?

/dev/console is created by udev installer.


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#3 2006-03-05 06:22:09

sodface
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Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Nice job on Minimax Trained.Monkey, very cool.

The problem is when I'm trying to boot to the installed Arch.  Minimax boots fine.

I booted to minimax and setup my nic.
Then I manually partitioned my hard drive. (single ide)
Then I made the filesystems and mounted on /mnt/arch
Then ran /arch/setup and did FTP install of base packages only.
Then edited config files.
Then installed kernel.
Then installed Grub.

The first problem is that the computer hangs on first reboot.
To fix this I had to reboot minimax and manually install grub with:
        grub
        device (hd0) /dev/hda
        root (hd0,0)
        setup (hd0)

Then I could get Grub menu but initrd26.img was missing when I try and boot.

Had to reboot with minimax, mount filesystems and:
      chroot /mnt/arch
      mknod dev/zero c 1 5
      mkinitrd auto

System booted farther now but got "can't open initial console error"

Had to reboot with minimax, mount filesystems and:
     mknod -m 660 /dev/console c 5 1

Now it boots but Activating Swap fails, Mounting Root Read-only fails, and Checking Filesystems fails, and then I get a maintenance login.

When I login and mount my root filesystem, /dev has only a hand full of entries and none for my hard drive.

It seems udev is not starting and not populating the /dev folder?  I've messed with many things like different settings in mkinitrd.conf and rc.conf, making new initrd every time.  Nothing seems to help.  Running /etc/start_udev is successful in maintenance mode and creates all the device files.

I actually did get the system working once and I thought I knew what I did to fix it.  We went out for a little while and I came back and wiped the drive and started again so I knew for sure how to do it.  Didn't work again and now I can't get a normal boot no matter what I do.

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#4 2006-03-05 20:48:19

sodface
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Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Seems to be a problem with / being mounted read only??  I took the ro option out of menu.lst but it doesn't seem to help.

Kernel:

[23;4HThe highlighted entry will be booted automatically in 1 seconds.    [5;75H[H[J  Booting 'Arch Linux  [/boot/vmlinuz]'

root   (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hda3 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,9600n8
   [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1c00, size=0x1bd9be]
initrd /initrd26.img
   [Linux-initrd @ 0x1dcd5000, 0x306c4c bytes]

Linux version 2.6.15-ARCH (root@Wohnung) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051222 (prerelease)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 12 18:36:42 CET 2006
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 0000000000080000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001dfec000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000001dfec000 - 000000001dfef000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 000000001dfef000 - 000000001dfff000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000000001dfff000 - 000000001e000000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
479MB LOWMEM available.
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xe408
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 6:8 APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl edge)
ACPI: BIOS IRQ0 pin2 override ignored.
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level)
Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 1 I/O APICs
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 1e000000:e0c00000)
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,9600n8
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes)
Detected 1463.128 MHz processor.
Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 478688k/491440k available (2691k kernel code, 11984k reserved, 733k data, 252k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 2929.39 BogoMIPS (lpj=5858798)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: CLK_CTL MSR was 6003d22f. Reprogramming to 2003d22f
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping 01
Total of 1 processors activated (2929.39 BogoMIPS).
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=0 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
Brought up 1 CPUs
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 3099k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf1ab0, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050902
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 16 18) *6
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 16 18) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 16 18) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 16 18) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 19) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 20 21 22) *6
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKU] (IRQs 20 21 22) *10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKI] (IRQs 20 21 22) *10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKJ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKK] (IRQs 20 21 22) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKM] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
ACPI: Assume root bridge [_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 15 devices
SCSI subsystem initialized
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report
pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0xe400-0xe4fe could not be reserved
pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0xe4ff-0xe4ff has been reserved
pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0xcf0-0xcf3 could not be reserved
pnp: 00:0d: ioport range 0x370-0x371 has been reserved
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:08.0
  IO window: disabled.
  MEM window: disabled.
  PREFETCH window: disabled.
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
  IO window: disabled.
  MEM window: ec000000-ecffffff
  PREFETCH window: eff00000-f7ffffff
Simple Boot Flag at 0x3f set to 0x1
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 okir@monad.swb.de).
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET: Registered protocol family 2
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 196608 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 196608 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384)
TCP reno registered
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
ACPI wakeup devices: 
PCI0 PCI1 UAR1 UAR2 PS2K PS2M USB0 USB1 MMAC 
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse as /class/input/input1
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Initial RAMDISK Loading Modules...
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
NFORCE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:09.0
NFORCE: chipset revision 195
NFORCE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
NFORCE: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround.
NFORCE: 0000:00:09.0 (rev c3) UDMA100 controller
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: HDS722580VLAT20, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hdc: LITE-ON COMBO LTC-48161H, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 1024KiB
hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/1794KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100)
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
Emulex LightPulse Fibre Channel SCSI driver 8.1.0
Copyright(c) 2004-2005 Emulex.  All rights reserved.
QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver
seagate: ST0x/TMC-8xx not detected.
st: Version 20050830, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
qlogicfas: no cards were found, please specify I/O address and IRQ using iobase= and irq= optionsFailed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
3ware 9000 Storage Controller device driver for Linux v2.26.02.004.
sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0-ac
scsi: <fdomain> Detection failed (no card)
GDT-HA: Storage RAID Controller Driver. Version: 3.04 
GDT-HA: Found 0 PCI Storage RAID Controllers
3ware Storage Controller device driver for Linux v1.26.02.001.
imm: Version 2.05 (for Linux 2.4.0)
ipr: IBM Power RAID SCSI Device Driver version: 2.1.0 (October 31, 2005)
Adaptec aacraid driver (1.1-4 Feb 12 2006 18:22:35)
nsp32: loading...
osst :I: Tape driver with OnStream support version 0.99.3
osst :I: $Id: osst.c,v 1.73 2005/01/01 21:13:34 wriede Exp $
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
megaraid cmm: 2.20.2.6 (Release Date: Mon Mar 7 00:01:03 EST 2005)
megasas: 00.00.02.00-rc4 Fri Sep 16 12:37:08 EDT 2005
megaraid: 2.20.4.6 (Release Date: Mon Mar 07 12:27:22 EST 2005)
Loading Adaptec I2O RAID: Version 2.4 Build 5go
Detecting Adaptec I2O RAID controllers...
Fusion MPT base driver 3.03.04
Copyright (c) 1999-2005 LSI Logic Corporation
Fusion MPT misc device (ioctl) driver 3.03.04
mptctl: Registered with Fusion MPT base driver
mptctl: /dev/mptctl @ (major,minor=10,220)
Fusion MPT SAS Host driver 3.03.04
Fusion MPT SPI Host driver 3.03.04
Fusion MPT FC Host driver 3.03.04
Compaq SMART2 Driver (v 2.6.0)
HP CISS Driver (v 2.6.8)
JFS: nTxBlock = 3765, nTxLock = 30127
SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, large block numbers, no debug enabled
SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
ReiserFS: hda3: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal
ReiserFS: hda3: using ordered data mode
ReiserFS: hda3: journal params: device hda3, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30
ReiserFS: hda3: checking transaction log (hda3)
ReiserFS: hda3: Using r5 hash to sort names
Initial RAMDISK Loading Completed...
Freeing unused kernel memory: 252k freed

INIT: version 2.86 booting

 
[1;34m > [1;37mArch Linux v0.7.1 [1;34m([1;36mNoodle[1;34m)
[1;0m 
[1;34m > [1;37m[1;36mhttp://www.archlinux.org[1;0m 
[1;34m > [1;37mCopyright 2002-2006 Judd Vinet[1;0m 
[1;34m > [1;37mDistributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL)[1;0m 

[1;30m   ------------------------------

[1;34m:: [1;37mStarting UDev Daemon[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m /etc/rc.d/functions: line 78: /dev/null: Read-only file system
[-9G   [1;34m[[1;31mFAIL[1;34m][1;0m 
/etc/rc.sysinit: line 44: /dev/null: Read-only file system
[1;34m:: [1;37mFreeing memory from Initial Ramdisk[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m /etc/rc.sysinit: line 57: /dev/null: Read-only file system
/etc/rc.sysinit: line 58: /dev/null: Read-only file system
[-9G   [1;34m[[1;37mDONE[1;34m][1;0m 
[1;34m:: [1;37mActivating Swa
INIT: Entering runlevel: 3

[1;34m:: [1;37mStarting Syslog-NG[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[1;37mDONE[1;34m][1;0m 
[1;34m:: [1;37mStarting Network[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
eth0: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[-9G   [1;34m[[1;31mFAIL[1;34m][1;0m 
[1;34m:: [1;37mMounting Network Filesystems[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[1;37mDONE[1;34m][1;0m 
[1;34m:: [1;37mStarting Cron Daemon[1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[0;36mBUSY[1;34m][1;0m [-9G   [1;34m[[1;37mDONE[1;34m][1;0m 

INIT: Id "c1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes


INIT: Id "c2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes


INIT: Id "c3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes


INIT: Id "s1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes


INIT: Id "c4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes


INIT: Id "c5

Init failures formatted a bit better:

:: Starting UDev Daemon 9G   [BUSY] /etc/rc.d/functions: line 78: /dev/null: Rem
9G   [FAIL]
/etc/rc.sysinit: line 44: /dev/null: Read-only file system
:: Freeing memory from Initial Ramdisk 9G   [BUSY] /etc/rc.sysinit: line 57: /dm
/etc/rc.sysinit: line 58: /dev/null: Read-only file system
9G   [DONE]
INIT: Entering runlevel: 3
:: Starting Syslog-NG 9G   [BUSY] 9G   [DONE]
:: Starting Network 9G   [BUSY] SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
eth0: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
9G   [FAIL]
:: Mounting Network Filesystems 9G   [BUSY] 9G   [DONE]
:: Starting Cron Daemon 9G   [BUSY] 9G   [DONE]

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#5 2006-03-05 22:46:01

sodface
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Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 38

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Well, during one reinstallation I took notes so that I could itemize what I had to do to get a good boot.

One note I made was:

after package install step, only thing in /dev was null
  -- had to mknod -m 660 console c 5 1

The whole problem was apparently whatever created /dev/null to begin with... I looked for it, saw it was there, and so only created /dev/console manually.

This is what ls -l showed for /dev/null to begin with:

-rw-r--r--  1  root  root    31  Apr  2  2006  null

So I did:

rm -f /dev/null
mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3

which now makes ls -l produce:

crw-rw-rw-  1  root  root  1,  3  2006-04-02  03:12  null

I can now boot successfully.  Any idea why /dev/null was apparently not created correctly to begin with?

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#6 2006-03-06 04:20:32

sodface
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Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 38

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

And just to sum up, this is what I did to do an Arch FTP install with Minimax:

--  Verify net connectivity and fix as required
--  Partition the hard disk
--  Create file systems 
--  Mount partitions at /mnt/arch 
--  Start Arch setup
    -- /arch/setup
    -- Complete installer steps 2-6
    -- exit installer
--  chroot /mnt/arch
    -- mknod -m 660 /dev/console c 5 1
    -- rm -f /dev/null (if it exists)
    -- mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3
    -- mknod /dev/zero c 1 5
    -- mkinitrd auto
    -- exit (back to minimax)
--  Run grub and setup boot partition
    -- grub
       -- device (hd0) /dev/hda
       -- root (hd0,0)
       -- setup (hd0)
       -- quit
--  Remove minimax cd and reboot into Arch

** doing the manual "mkinitrd auto" is because it fails during the kernel installation reporting that all loop devices were in use.  I think that if I had created /mnt/arch/dev/zero before starting installation then mkinitrd would have worked during the kernel install.

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#7 2006-03-06 04:28:00

RaLX
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Registered: 2005-10-17
Posts: 54

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Why you don't add this interesting info to the wiki?  wink

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#8 2006-03-06 05:26:32

sodface
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Posts: 38

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

RaLX wrote:

Why you don't add this interesting info to the wiki?  wink

Well, I was kind of thinking that some of these steps I had to perform were because I was just being a knuckle head and that someone would come on and set me straight.

Has anyone performed an FTP install from the most current Arch .iso?  Does it work correctly if you do everything with the installer?

I might give that a shot tomorrow.  If it goes anything like this install did, I think I would classify the Arch installer as being broken.

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#9 2006-03-07 13:15:27

Trained.Monkey
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From: Czechoslovakia
Registered: 2005-12-15
Posts: 20

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Current Minimax have problem with /dev/null and /dev/console fixed.

Problems was that base packages are installed in cycle, /dev/null is created in udev package. But udev is installed BEFORE some utils which are needed and /dev/null creating fails. You must call /sbin/migrate-udev after installation, or install udev at the end.


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#10 2006-03-07 16:50:26

sodface
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Posts: 38

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Great Trained.Monkey I'll download the new version when I get home and give it a shot.

What about the kernel installation failing to make the initrd image successfully because of the "all loop devices in use" error (corrected by manully creating /dev/zero and re-running mkinitrd auto) - is this fixed also or is it something I was doing wrong?

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#11 2006-03-08 05:35:32

sodface
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Posts: 38

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Redid the install tonight with the latest Minimax version.  Everything worked flawlessly except for the grub installation.  The installer said that grub was installed successfully but on the reboot I got dumped into the grub command line.

I redid the grub setup manually and everything is good.

Thanks for Minimax!

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#12 2006-03-09 13:44:52

Trained.Monkey
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From: Czechoslovakia
Registered: 2005-12-15
Posts: 20

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

I have simular problem with grub, I will compare it with original install cd and see problems.

I am planing add debian and slackware installer...


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#13 2006-03-10 06:57:46

AndyRTR
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From: Magdeburg/Germany
Registered: 2005-10-07
Posts: 1,639

Re: FTP Installation with Minimax

Make good docs so we can port it to x86_64 ;-)

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