replace systemd with uselessd?

xanb · 2014-10-28 13:29:09

Hi,

I heard it's possible to replace systemd with uselessd. How can I do in Archlinux? Can I do either in archlinuxarm?

Thanks,

falconindy · 2014-10-28 13:54:06

Sure, replacing systemd is easy. The time-consuming part is going to reimplementing all the features that uselessd removed, and solving all of the bugs and race conditions that come with that.

Trilby · 2014-10-28 14:01:10

What's the question here? Of course you can. You can do whatever you want. There is even an AUR package for uselessd. I haven't used it, but that's where I'd start.

Can you use it on archlinuxarm? How the heck should we know? Ask on archlinuxarm.org - that's a different distro.

ANOKNUSA · 2014-10-28 14:49:07

@xanb, there are essentially two directions this thread can move in. If you were to build, install and configure uselessd on your own systemd, work out some of its shortcomings, and then post your results here, I suspect you'd get a decent amount of positive feedback from like-minded people who prefer something different from the complete systemd suite.

If, however, you expect someone here to walk you through how to install an unofficial, mangled version of systemd you're going to get resoundingly negative feedback. Everyone here is tired of this "Fight the power!" crap with systemd. If you want to use an alternative to systemd then go for it---that's the beauty of Arch, and there are several other init/service management systems some hard-working folks have put together. But don't expect anyone here to hold your hand.

xanb · 2014-10-29 14:52:30

I just want to know if someone done it with success and what were the caveats of that. What are the problems I expect to encounter during the transition.

@ANOKUSA: the first option I think but I need a bit of second for doing it.... ;-)

xanb · 2014-11-17 12:11:08

When I try to install in arm7h, I get:

==> ERROR: Cannot find the strip binary required for object file stripping.

after makepkg.

What happens?

WorMzy · 2014-11-17 12:24:17

Even on other architectures you should have base-devel installed if you want to build things with makepkg..

graysky · 2014-11-17 12:35:42

@op - No offense intended, but if you are unable build packages without assistance, I'm guessing that you're asking for a world of headaches by trying to switch out an init system. Maybe you should consider a different distro that doesn't use systemd if that is your objection.

xanb · 2014-11-18 07:55:32

WorMzy wrote:

Even on other architectures you should have base-devel installed if you want to build things with makepkg..

Thanks,

xanb · 2014-11-18 07:56:29

graysky wrote:

@op - No offense intended, but if you are unable build packages without assistance, I'm guessing that you're asking for a world of headaches by trying to switch out an init system. Maybe you should consider a different distro that doesn't use systemd if that is your objection.

Yes it's very dangerous, I know. uselessd is already unstable fork. But I just want to see.

Awebb · 2014-11-18 08:43:13

My experience with uselessd. Let's say I was curious myself.

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replace systemd with uselessd?

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