The New Opera?

Frabato · 2014-12-16 19:20:59

Well, I've been using the positive affirmations given to me by my therapist but the new opera is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'd like to hear other opinions on this, for or against. Let go and express yourselves!

Thanks

karol · 2014-12-16 19:55:17

You can still use the old opera. Opera 12 for the 32-bit systems is in the repos and there's also https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opera-legacy/

Wnat exactly are you talking about?

Frabato · 2014-12-17 14:10:45

Okay, control + keypad number no longer opens my speed dial shorcuts, opera no longer opens full screen, bookmarks that are imported from the old opera are less convenient to get to, the config file location has changed. None of these changes have improved my web surfing experience. If anyone knows of some improvements that are really cool, let me know and I'll try to work with it. In the mean time I'll noodle with chromium (step number one, figure out how to NOT have the program close when I close the last tab). Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks

bleach · 2014-12-17 14:33:09

also if you hide address bar the ctrl-k no longer brings up a goto dialog if it is not hidden it takes you to the address bar and when it is hidden it does nothing even if you type something blindly. after messing around with it it seems to simplified for my needs. though i like the opera mini for android.

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Frabato · 2014-12-17 14:55:08

And another thing, go to opera's web site where they used to have downloads for ubuntu, debian, fedora, suse etc.. Now the website says, If you're not using ubuntu, go to your package manager. Hmmphh!

Trilby · 2014-12-17 16:35:11

Rhetorical question only: why would you want to download opera from the website and bypass pacman?

Are there problems to solve here, or is this just a venting session? The latter doesn't really serve a purpose here.

Frabato · 2014-12-17 19:55:34

Trilby wrote:

Rhetorical question only: why would you want to download opera from the website and bypass pacman?
Are there problems to solve here, or is this just a venting session? The latter doesn't really serve a purpose here.

Yes, the practical purpose would be to download and install an earlier version.

ChemBro · 2014-12-17 22:00:39

Frabato wrote:

Trilby wrote:
Rhetorical question only: why would you want to download opera from the website and bypass pacman?
Are there problems to solve here, or is this just a venting session? The latter doesn't really serve a purpose here.
Yes, the practical purpose would be to download and install an earlier version.

Which earlier, non-Linux-supported version do you mean? Also there is the Arch Rollback Machine, if you want earlier versions.

Frabato · 2014-12-17 22:11:54

Thanks for the responses. I guess it's just a matter of time before using an older version would be a problem, no security updates and all that. So I'll be jumping into chromium and see if I can find the add-ons to make it behave the way I'd like it to.

drcouzelis · 2014-12-17 22:15:17

karol wrote:

You can still use the old opera. Opera 12 for the 32-bit systems is in the repos and there's also https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opera-legacy/

karol already gave you a link to the package of the older ("good") version of Opera. Isn't this what you were looking for?

Never mind. This whole thread just confuses me (in a fun way).

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Soukyuu · 2014-12-17 22:35:33

Frabato wrote:

Thanks for the responses. I guess it's just a matter of time before using an older version would be a problem, no security updates and all that. So I'll be jumping into chromium and see if I can find the add-ons to make it behave the way I'd like it to.

Considering the new opera is more or less a Chromium clone, I'm not sure which difference it will make. That said, I've switched to Chromium a long time ago, and it's the only browser that feels like home for me at the moment.

nomorewindows · 2014-12-18 16:38:04

Does any of this explain why even after opera is closed parts of it remain in memory? Or am I just dreaming that Opera doesn't go after it's closed? Had to kill opera and those Chrome-something-a-rather processes with sigkill and restarted opera, everything looks ok now.

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hippieben · 2014-12-18 23:12:31

I've been using it, seems good to me. A nice webkit browser that isn't chrome. I don't have any complaints.

Scimmia · 2014-12-18 23:37:06

It's not webkit based, it's Blink based.

Frabato · 2014-12-18 23:51:12

Hey hippieben or anyone,

My first problem was that I couldn't get it to open full screen. I'm using the mate desktop. Is this a problem for anyone else?

Frabato · 2014-12-19 01:17:53

Well never mind, I reinstalled and it's opening full screen now. The speed dial websites are no longer accessible by ctrl + number. It also seems that the speed dial options are gone. I've been using the same 3 x 3 configuration for years and it seems that that's no longer possible. Well, we humans are adaptable.

nomorewindows · 2014-12-19 01:33:11

It seems like the last few times that opera has been updated, that all the pages I had up disappeared. Even extensions have to be reloaded. Could be that my profile was getting wiped out somehow. But then I had to clear up some diskspace by opera and mozilla crash recoveries. Clearing up the long ago old crashes wasn't what was causing opera to lose its place.

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Frabato · 2014-12-19 14:28:09

Never mind my above never mind, it's back to not opening full screen and I also just discovered that the tab order no longer has any options. A quick look at preferences shows how many options have been removed from the new improved opera.

nomorewindows · 2014-12-20 17:20:08

Hmm...opera keeps popping up in memory even after it is closed, and the chrome processes are still running. Is this the intended behaviour?

karol · 2014-12-20 17:27:02

How exactly did you close it and how are you checking it's still running?

nomorewindows · 2014-12-20 17:30:22

Closed it the normal way, and checking top shows something still running?

nomorewindows · 2014-12-31 16:34:04

Opera still seems to linger in memory even after several different tests. So I wonder why it does that. Valgrind gives no indication of any memory leaks.

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