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mcloaked

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From: Yorkshire, UK

Registered: 2012-02-02

Posts: 1,279

Re: Upcoming issues for secure boot and arch installs

Can one get a Broadwell laptop that is barebones with no O/S installed at this time?

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/lafite/

Isn't she beautiful?

Wow - that is a very nice machine at a good price too!

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Mike C

nomorewindows

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Registered: 2010-04-03

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Re: Upcoming issues for secure boot and arch installs

I wish they'd just leave all this stuff alone.  They're paying money to design an implementation just for the irritation it causes.  Nothing was really broke about BIOS, but everything else (including mobile phones), has a locked down or cumbersome UEFI implementation.  It'll be the day my stopwatch does what my computer does now.

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hipersayan_x

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Registered: 2014-12-09

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Re: Upcoming issues for secure boot and arch installs

The paper say clearly that it can't be disabled in mobile phones (that's a common practice in this market), but its optional for PC vendors to give the option to disable Secure Boot or not. I think we can't conclude nothing yet, until vendors begin to ship first W10 PCs.

mcloaked

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From: Yorkshire, UK

Registered: 2012-02-02

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Re: Upcoming issues for secure boot and arch installs

The paper say clearly that it can't be disabled in mobile phones (that's a common practice in this market), but its optional for PC vendors to give the option to disable Secure Boot or not. I think we can't conclude nothing yet, until vendors begin to ship first W10 PCs.

True that we don't know until we get W10 pc's to tinker with, but it might still be a good idea to explore implementing Secure Boot for Arch in the meantime otherwise it might be a frantic race to get that done in a hurry once the new machines come out if they do have BIOS locked to Secure Boot!  Regarding the previous post to the one above, most current Android phones can still be rooted, have their bootloader unlocked, and have alternative recovery flashed to the ROMs, and alternative operating systems installed such as CyanogenMod for recent high end models as far as I know.

Last edited by mcloaked (2015-03-26 10:23:29)

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Mike C

ewaller

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From: Pasadena, CA

Registered: 2009-07-13

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Re: Upcoming issues for secure boot and arch installs

most current Android phones can still be rooted, have their bootloader unlocked, and have alternative recovery flashed to the ROMs, and alternative operating systems installed such as CyanogenMod for recent high end models as far as I know.

Case in point, HTC provides a mechanism for unlocking their bootloaders -- with an exception to accommodate the demands of a particular ethically challenged  US carrier.  Once that is done, removing bloatware and scumware, installing root access and changing the OS are unencumbered.

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