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Carl Karl

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Registered: 2013-06-12

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Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Tonight, Gnome 3.16 arrived in the regular repos. Using it in other desktop environments has a downside: Gnome-Applications like nautilus, totem, file-roller and others will have a black frame around their windows, like this:
http://i.imgur.com/tNdVSI6.png
(I am using XFCE4 as DE and kwin as window-manager, but it happens with xfwm4 as window-manager, too.)

I don't know a way to get rid of that black frame yet. If I find, I will tell here.
If you know, please tell here.

Last edited by Carl Karl (2015-04-10 05:49:16)

justasug

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Registered: 2014-08-03

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Which GTK theme are you using? I had the same issue with my "old" themes. They probably need a few tweaks for the new version.
Switching to the default Adwaita theme fixed the problem for me.

Last edited by justasug (2015-04-10 07:05:12)

Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

I'm using Adwaita-Manjaro: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce … njaro-git/
And indeed, switching to the default Adwaito makes the frame less prominent (thanks!): Thinner and white. But it is still there, so no real solution for me.

Meanwhile, I do:
nautilus --> thunar
file-roller --> xarchiver
eog --> ristretto
gnome-calculator --> galculator
totem --> vlc

kokoko3k

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Do you run a compositor?
If yes, then probably is a compositor/video driver issue
if not, try to run it; that black frame seems a shadow wannabe.

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Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

I think it's a wannabe shadow, too.
Yes, I'm using a compositor, normally kwin, but I tried the compositor in xfwm4 (yes, I enabled it and it works), too.
Both show the same symptoms which haven't appeared before Gnome 3.16.
(But maybe it's caused by another package updated the same day? Hard to say...)

forumache

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Could this be the reason?

Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

@forumache:
Yes, that sounds very reasonable....

justasug

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

switching to the default Adwaito makes the frame less prominent (thanks!): Thinner and white. But it is still there, so no real solution for me.

Does it look like this:

It looks acceptable to me, but like you mentioned, there does seem to be a small, white border/area around the window.
The only really annoying thing I noticed after the new update is a black rectangle appearing before every window is displayed, but I guess that's a window manager (Openbox) issue.

Last edited by justasug (2015-04-10 08:56:20)

Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

@ justasug:
Yes, it looks exactly like that.
(And my biggest problem with Adwaita is giving panel/taskbar and tray bright colours which I don't like, I prefer white font on black ground as in Adwaita-Manjaro...
...I know I can change the panels colour separately, but however that causes problems with fonts-colours and icons.)

Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

OK, I'm one step further:
The following downgrades prevent the problem:
Downgrade of gtk3 (3.16.1-1 => 3.14.9-1)
Downgrade of nautilus (3.16.0-1 => 3.14.2-2)
Downgrade of totem (3.16.0-1 => 3.14.2-1)
[totem doesn't start with gtk3 3.14.9-1]

(for your comfort:

sudo pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/gtk3-3.14.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz  /var/cache/pacman/pkg/nautilus-3.14.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/totem-3.14.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz 

and in /etc/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg = gtk3
IgnorePkg = nautilus
IgnorePkg = totem

)

I found it by downgrading Nautilus at first. The problem kept appearing, in terminal was the message: (starting nautilus 3.16)

$ nautilus

(nautilus:3652): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:2:19: Theming engine 'adwaita' not found

(nautilus:3652): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
Initializing nautilus-dropbox 2.10.0
<IntrospectionModule 'Nautilus' from '/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Nautilus-3.0.typelib'>
Insync Nautilus Plugin
<class 'insync_plugin.InsyncExtension'>
Socket: /run/user/1000/ownCloud/socket <=> /ownCloud/socket
Socket File: /run/user/1000/ownCloud/socket
Setting connected to True
Socket watch id: 16
('[__init__ insync plugin]', <InsyncExtension object at 0x7f349237bd70 (uninitialized at 0x0)>)
sys:1: Warning: The property GtkSettings:gtk-button-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.
sys:1: Warning: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

That made me think of downgrading gtk, in which I was right and wrong at the same time:
The frame-around-windows-problem disappeared, but the waring starting nautilus stayed:
starting nautilus 3.14:

$ nautilus

(nautilus:5174): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:2:19: Theming engine 'adwaita' not found

(nautilus:5174): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
Initializing nautilus-dropbox 2.10.0
ImportError: No module named Nautilus

(nautilus:5174): Nautilus-Python-WARNING **: nautilus_python_init_python failed

(nautilus:5174): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-button-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(nautilus:5174): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

Carl Karl

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Bug report for gtk3:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747688

horst3180

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Re: Gnome 3.16 and other DEs: black frame around Gnome-Application windows

Themes need to be modified according to this commit

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commi … d6c15110e9