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#1 2006-03-24 07:58:20

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X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Recently installed Arch, new to arch, but not to Linux in general.

My system installed fine, and KDE is running OK, nice and fast starting up (I added x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm to /etc/inittab).

I had a font problem, the fonts were too small, especially for GTK apps like Firefox, etc.  I remembered solving this in previous distros, so I did the following: 

pacman -Sy xorg-fonts-100dpi
pacman -Sy xorg-fonts-75dpi

I then added the following line to the Monitor section of my xorg.conf: 

DisplaySize 260 195

so that when I run xdpyinfo | grep resolution, it shows that I'm running 100dpi.

The problem is, that when the system boots, it takes around one minute before I get the kdm login.  The screen remains black with the mouse cursor, so I know X has loaded, but there seems to be a severe delay.  I never had this problem before the 100dpi fonts were installed.  I had a feeling in might be something to do with the fact I cannot load the X Font Server at boot, so wondered maybe it's because when X is loaded, it's first loading the X Font Server before the kdm login is displayed.

Does anyone know how I can get this resolved, so that it will start fast again like previously?

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#2 2006-03-24 10:32:42

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

One thing I forgot.  If I choose runlevel 3 instead, X starts fast.  So this must have something to do with kdm login or something.

I prefer to run at runlevel 5, so this is a bit of a disappointment.

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#3 2006-03-24 12:24:40

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

I had the same issue but when I installed the dummy pkg 'xorg' and followed the Xorg7 wiki page instructions to the letter the login problem was resolved.

/path/to/Truth

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#4 2006-03-24 13:26:47

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

I installed the dummy package near the beginning when "startx" didn't exist.  I have also checked everything related to the xorg7 link you posted, and still get the problem.

This is my xorg.conf: 

[ian@elise ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Layout0"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load "freetype"
        # Load "xtt"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "type1"
        #Load  "speedo"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "Auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc101"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
        #HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5
        #VertRefresh  50.0 - 100.0
        DisplaySize 260 195
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "i810"
        Card        "** Intel i810 (generic)               [i810]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
                Modes    "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode 0666
EndSection

My font paths are all listed correctly in /etc/X11/fs/config.

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#5 2006-03-24 13:36:48

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Your Xorg.conf looks quite weird for i810 drivers roll Where are the FontPath, RgbPath and modules path ???
Compare it to mine @ http://arch.pastebin.com/613767

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#6 2006-03-24 13:45:20

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Sorry, misconfigured X with xorgcfg -textmode instead of Xorg -configure.  Here is the new xorg.conf file, but the problem still remains! 

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "xtrap"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc101"
    Option        "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
    #HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5
    #VertRefresh  50.0 - 100.0
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
    DisplaySize 260 195
EndSection

Section "Device"

        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"                # [<bool>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ColorKey"               # <i>
        #Option     "CacheLines"             # <i>
        #Option     "Dac6Bit"                # [<bool>]
        #Option     "DRI"                    # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDDC"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShowCache"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"           # <i>
        #Option     "PageFlip"               # [<bool>]
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "i810"
    VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
    BoardName   "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
    Card        "** Intel i810 (generic)               [i810]"
    BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     1
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     16
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
        Modes    "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

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#7 2006-03-24 13:49:04

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Try hwd... 

pacman -S hwd
hwd -x
cp /etc/X11/xorg.xonf.hwd (i think) /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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#8 2006-03-24 14:47:25

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

ian: got two boards working this issue, uh?  :-P lol

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#9 2006-03-24 14:53:18

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Ah you found me  big_smile

Yes, I thought it might be best to post it here as well, since it's arch and we don't get many arch users on the other one.

I've subsequently done the hwd -x and it's not worked either.  Still takes almost 1 minute to start.

As I said before, at runlevel 3, I can log into the system, type startx and it starts no problem, nice and fast.  It just seems to be when at runlevel 5, that it takes ages for the kdm login to appear.  I think x must be configured correctly.

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#10 2006-03-24 14:56:03

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

ianw1974 wrote:

As I said before, at runlevel 3, I can log into the system, type startx and it starts no problem, nice and fast.  It just seems to be when at runlevel 5, that it takes ages for the kdm login to appear.  I think x must be configured correctly.

you'd think so, wouldn't ya?

perhaps it's an issue w/kdm...have you tried switching to a different display manager (xdm, gdm) to see if it starts up faster?  this is just a trouble shooting step, obviously not a solution.

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#11 2006-03-24 14:56:21

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

One other thing to note.  xdm works perfectly fine and loads and displays in about 2 or 3 seconds.  So it must be a kdm issue.

I don't like xdm, I want kdm to work tongue

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#12 2006-03-24 14:57:02

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

ianw1974 wrote:

One other thing to note.  xdm works perfectly fine and loads and displays in about 2 or 3 seconds.  So it must be a kdm issue.

I don't like xdm, I want kdm to work tongue

you're a gol darn psychic... :shock:

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#13 2006-03-24 15:10:27

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

I even tried running /opt/kde/bin/genkdmconf to see if this would make a difference.

Unfortunately, it's not faster.  Weird thing is before I installed the 100dpi fonts and xfs that was a dependency and some others, this all ran perfectly fine!!!!!

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#14 2006-03-24 23:09:01

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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Here's my xorg.conf after the hwd -x.  It's definitely kdm related, since xdm works fine, but I don't like it.  Surely kdm should work fine. 

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Xorg Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
        InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"
    
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/CID"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
    Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" ""
    Option "XkbVariant" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
    Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
    Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option      "Protocol" "auto"
    Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
    Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "USB Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents"    "true"
        Option          "Protocol"              "IMPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Buttons"               "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "Monitor0"
        Option "DPMS" "true"
    DisplaySize 260 195
#    HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
    HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
    VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#    VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
    #  Default modes distilled from
    #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
    #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
    #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
    # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    ModeLine "640x350"    31.5  640  672  736  832    350  382  385  445 +hsync -vsync
    # 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    ModeLine "640x400"    31.5  640  672  736  832    400  401  404  445 -hsync +vsync
    # 720x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    ModeLine "720x400"    35.5  720  756  828  936    400  401  404  446 -hsync +vsync
    # 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz
    ModeLine "640x480"    25.2  640  656  752  800    480  490  492  525 -hsync -vsync
    # 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    ModeLine "640x480"    31.5  640  664  704  832    480  489  491  520 -hsync -vsync
    # 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz
    ModeLine "640x480"    31.5  640  656  720  840    480  481  484  500 -hsync -vsync
    # 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz
    ModeLine "640x480"    36.0  640  696  752  832    480  481  484  509 -hsync -vsync
    # 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz
    ModeLine "800x600"    36.0  800  824  896 1024    600  601  603  625 +hsync +vsync
    # 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    ModeLine "800x600"    40.0  800  840  968 1056    600  601  605  628 +hsync +vsync
    # 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz
    ModeLine "800x600"    50.0  800  856  976 1040    600  637  643  666 +hsync +vsync
    # 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz
    ModeLine "800x600"    49.5  800  816  896 1056    600  601  604  625 +hsync +vsync
    # 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz
    ModeLine "800x600"    56.3  800  832  896 1048    600  601  604  631 +hsync +vsync
    # 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"   44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264    768  768  776  817 +hsync +vsync Interlace
    # 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"   65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344    768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
    # 1024x768 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 56.5kHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"   75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328    768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
    # 1024x768 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"   78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312    768  769  772  800 +hsync +vsync
    # 1024x768 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 68.7kHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"   94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376    768  769  772  808 +hsync +vsync
    # 1152x864 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 67.5kHz
    ModeLine "1152x864"  108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600    864  865  868  900 +hsync +vsync
    # 1280x960 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
    ModeLine "1280x960"  108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800    960  961  964 1000 +hsync +vsync
    # 1280x960 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 85.9kHz
    ModeLine "1280x960"  148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728    960  961  964 1011 +hsync +vsync
    # 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz
    ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688   1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    # 1280x1024 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 80.0kHz
    ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688   1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    # 1280x1024 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 91.1kHz
    ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728   1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 75.0kHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 65Hz (VESA) hsync: 81.3kHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 87.5kHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 93.8kHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    # 1792x1344 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 83.6kHz
    ModeLine "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448   1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
    # 1792x1344 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
    ModeLine "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456   1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
    # 1856x1392 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 86.3kHz
    ModeLine "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528   1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
    # 1856x1392 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
    ModeLine "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560   1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
    # 1920x1440 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 90.0kHz
    ModeLine "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600   1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    # 1920x1440 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
    ModeLine "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640   1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    # Additional modelines
    ModeLine "1800x1440"  230    1800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
    ModeLine "1800x1440"  250    1800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
    # Extended modelines with GTF timings
    # 640x480 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 50.90 kHz; pclk: 43.16 MHz
    ModeLine "640x480"  43.16  640 680 744 848  480 481 484 509  -HSync +Vsync
    # 768x576 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 35.82 kHz; pclk: 34.96 MHz
    ModeLine "768x576"  34.96  768 792 872 976  576 577 580 597  -HSync +Vsync
    # 768x576 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 43.27 kHz; pclk: 42.93 MHz
    ModeLine "768x576"  42.93  768 800 880 992  576 577 580 601  -HSync +Vsync
    # 768x576 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 45.15 kHz; pclk: 45.51 MHz
    ModeLine "768x576"  45.51  768 808 888 1008  576 577 580 602  -HSync +Vsync
    # 768x576 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 51.42 kHz; pclk: 51.84 MHz
    ModeLine "768x576"  51.84  768 808 888 1008  576 577 580 605  -HSync +Vsync
    # 768x576 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 61.10 kHz; pclk: 62.57 MHz
    ModeLine "768x576"  62.57  768 816 896 1024  576 577 580 611  -HSync +Vsync
    # 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
    ModeLine "800x600"  68.18  800 848 936 1072  600 601 604 636  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
    ModeLine "1024x768"  113.31  1024 1096 1208 1392  768 769 772 814  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
    ModeLine "1152x864"  81.62  1152 1216 1336 1520  864 865 868 895  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
    ModeLine "1152x864"  119.65  1152 1224 1352 1552  864 865 868 907  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
    ModeLine "1152x864"  143.47  1152 1232 1360 1568  864 865 868 915  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
    ModeLine "1280x960"  124.54  1280 1368 1504 1728  960 961 964 1001  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
    ModeLine "1280x960"  129.86  1280 1368 1504 1728  960 961 964 1002  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
    ModeLine "1280x960"  178.99  1280 1376 1520 1760  960 961 964 1017  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
    ModeLine "1280x1024"  190.96  1280 1376 1520 1760  1024 1025 1028 1085  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050"  122.61  1400 1488 1640 1880  1050 1051 1054 1087  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050"  149.34  1400 1496 1648 1896  1050 1051 1054 1094  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050"  155.85  1400 1496 1648 1896  1050 1051 1054 1096  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050"  179.26  1400 1504 1656 1912  1050 1051 1054 1103  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
    ModeLine "1400x1050"  214.39  1400 1512 1664 1928  1050 1051 1054 1112  -HSync +Vsync
    # 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
    ModeLine "1600x1200"  280.64  1600 1728 1904 2208  1200 1201 1204 1271  -HSync +Vsync
EndSection

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "vesa"
    VendorName  "All"
    BoardName   "All"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultColorDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     1
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     4
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     8
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     15
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     16
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     24
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     32
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode 0666
EndSection

anyone got any ideas?

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#15 2006-03-25 02:48:35

lilsirecho
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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Suggest you watch the install sequence of KDE to find which segment is taking so much time to execute... 

Go from there..........

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#16 2006-03-25 03:21:26

iphitus
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 2004-10-09
Posts: 4,927

Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Just a random suggestion.

Check that the 'lo' interface is being enabled, aka loopback.

run ifconfig at console to check, if it isnt, enable it in rc.conf.

iphitus

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#17 2006-03-25 14:30:03

ianw1974
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From: UK and Poland
Registered: 2006-03-24
Posts: 13
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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

Here's the output:

[ian@elise ~]$ ifconfig
lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:44 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:44 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:2200 (2.1 Kb)  TX bytes:2200 (2.1 Kb)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:96:7E:08:78
          inet addr:10.1.1.4  Bcast:10.1.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::290:96ff:fe7e:878/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:4528 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2921 errors:0 dropped:3 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:6440375 (6.1 Mb)  TX bytes:208987 (204.0 Kb)
          Interrupt:11 Memory:cffe0000-cfff0000

Loopback definitely there.  It's happening to me on two machines, so not sure what's wrong.

I've checked the xorg.0.log file and there's no errors whatsoever.

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#18 2006-03-25 19:32:11

tyme
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From: PA
Registered: 2003-06-12
Posts: 139
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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

what's your /etc/hosts look like?

Generic Geek Unit

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#19 2006-03-25 20:40:02

ianw1974
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From: UK and Poland
Registered: 2006-03-24
Posts: 13
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Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

My /etc/hosts is just as follows:

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
10.1.1.4 elise.buziaks.com elise

pretty normal stuff tongue

Anyway, I've been thinking about this last night when I was installing a Red Hat Mail Server for a client.  So when I got home this morning at about 7.30am and had a few hours sleep, I started with a thought I had.  So, I'll explain, trust me, it's worth reading for the solution - at least I hope it is! tongue

When I had initially built my system, I just did a base install, followed by the following commands:

pacman -Syu (twice, once to upgrade pacman, the other rest of system after base install)
pacman -Sy kde

After doing this, I'd tried to run startx, and it wasn't there, so I'd next done:

pacman -Sy xorg

which pulled in a few other things.  I got startx then.  My initial xorg.conf had been created using:

xorgcfg -textmode

and when I'd tried to startx it failed saying it couldn't find the i810 module, and also failed about something called Speedo.  Anyway, I just installed xf86-video-i810 and that got me underway.  System was OK, font's a bit iffy, but that was when I installed the 100dpi fonts, and got my problem.  After this I had tried Xorg -configure, hwd -x as mentioned in this post, and still had the slowness of one minute.

After a few hours sleep this morning, I came back to my machine and remembered the thought about the speedo error.  I checked my xorg.conf, but it doesn't mention speedo, so I thought it can't be that.  Or can it.  So the next thing I did was:

pacman -Sy font-bitstream-speedo

and this installed.  I checked the xorg.conf file, and nope, still no mention of it.  However kdm now starts within about 5 seconds, which is really cool.

So, the lack of errors in my xorg logfile, the correct xorg.conf and yet, just missing these little speedo fonts, was what it seems to me, to be the cause of the problem.

I hope this is of some help to anyone in the future that has this sort of problem.

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#20 2006-03-25 21:02:51

MAC!EK
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Registered: 2005-09-27
Posts: 267

Re: X taking one minute to display kdm login. [solved]

I think you can remove those fonts now tongue
Why? I think that when you installed those fonts the font database was updated. I don't have those fonts and kdm starts quite fast.

post_install() {
  echo -n "Updating font cache... "
  usr/bin/fc-cache
  echo "done."
}

You can find it in file for that package in CVS:
http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcv … am-speedo/

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