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lody

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Registered: 2015-03-22

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Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

I have been tweaking my mouse settings to suit the odd game of CS:GO, and I found the following problem with the way the mouse is handled:

Small mouse movements (less say under 3 pixels per second) don't register on X or an OpenGL game etc, which is pretty bad for my needs.

I need to move the mouse faster than this 'deadzone' in order to make the mouse start registering.

My arch setup is pretty much this:

xorg i3 steam nvidia

I have set up the 50-mouse-acceleration Xorg configuration script, to disable mouse acceleration. (Happened before I did this also).
In addition to this, I have tried xset m 0 0.
Mouse reports at 1000hz polling rate using the tool on the mouse page

lody 
~ xinput --list | grep pointer
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Kingsis Peripherals ZOWIE Gaming mouse  	id=8	[slave  pointer  (2)]

lody 
~ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-acceleration.conf 
Section "InputClass"
	Identifier "Kingsis Peripherals ZOWIE Gaming mouse"
	MatchIsPointer "yes"
	Option "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
	Option "AccelerationScheme" "none"
EndSection

The mouse I am using is a 'driverless' mouse with 3 different dpi settings. Same problem with all of them.
I also have the problem on my Logitech MX518.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=462044
This exact problem is noted here, but seems to have been fixed? My X server version is:

lody 
~ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "X.Org X Server"
X.Org X Server 1.17.1

If anyone could shed some light on this I'd be grateful!

Last edited by lody (2015-03-22 20:55:58)

nullcollision

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Registered: 2015-04-05

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

I'm experiencing the same thing. Anyone knows a cure for this?

LysanderAkili

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Registered: 2015-04-05

Posts: 11

Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Confirmed. I am having the same issues. I tried many launch options in CS:GO to no avail. My gut feeling says it has to do with CS:GO input mouse. However, as you mention that link, I think that is also a possibility.

CSGO did have a recent update, march 31st. Your problem occurred before the 31st.  I scouted the nvidia driver update, the date was 3-19. Version: 346.47-10

This might be a nvidia bug.

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X.Org X Server 1.17.1

Graphic card: 560 TI
Nvidia Driver: 346.47-10

Mouse: Logitech G400s

Last edited by LysanderAkili (2015-04-05 23:33:55)

nullcollision

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Registered: 2015-04-05

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Nope, I have the same issue on an ATI box also it happens on games other than csgo, also on desktop (if you move the mouse slowly enough).

krychle

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Registered: 2006-11-22

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Same problem here. I tried every option (I think) for mouse settings for Xorg from here:
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Develo … ionAsOf16/ (Xorg 1.6)
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Develo … eleration/ (this is for newer versions)

Nothing works... Peeking and precise aiming is almost impossible.

I'm on Xorg 1.6, Catalyst drivers, i5

LysanderAkili

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Registered: 2015-04-05

Posts: 11

Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

So it is not nvidia nor ati issue.  It can't be xorg issue since there are no lags / deadzone other than in counter strike game.

Possibility this is a CS bug?   I believe this is only happening on arch linux because I don't see other distro users that are having identical problems.

geezitsbroken

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Registered: 2015-04-14

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

I'm having the same issue on Fedora 22 alpha. I'm using nvidia blob and xorg 1.17.1. As nullcollision said the issue is also present on desktop.

Solution: remove libinput. Also related [SOLVED] Problem with mouse threshold

As a side note, the introduction of libinput breaks the "50-mouse-acceleration.conf" method of disabling mouse acceleration (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration). This is because libinput now handles mouse acceleration by itself:

/* Disable acceleration in the server, libinput does it for us */
pInfo->options = xf86ReplaceIntOption(pInfo->options, "AccelerationProfile", -1);
pInfo->options = xf86ReplaceStrOption(pInfo->options, "AccelerationScheme", "none");

Source code: libinput.c
Looking at the libinput driver man page and a blog post by Who-T I discovered the right way of disabling mouse acceleration using /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-acceleration.conf:

Section "InputClass"
	Identifier "disable mouse acceleration"
	MatchDriver "libinput"
	Option "AccelSpeed" "-1"
EndSection

Still disabling mouse acceleration doesn't fix the deadzone effect and games are almost unplayable. I think for now removing libinput is our only choice.

Last edited by geezitsbroken (2015-04-15 09:58:03)

LysanderAkili

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Registered: 2015-04-05

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Confirmed!

Thank you so much. It fixed the problem. I did try disabling it first hand and it did not work. I decided to uninstall it.

sudo pacman -R x86-input-libinput libinput

Last edited by LysanderAkili (2015-04-15 00:58:42)

Skydive

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Registered: 2015-05-25

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Sorry. Apologies if this seems like a necro.
I'm currently experiencing exactly the same issue. However, I cannot get rid of libinput as kwin depends on it. plasma-desktop also depends on kwin.
If my thought process is correct, uninstalling libinput would also require me to uninstall plasma-desktop. That's a no no.
Please may I have some support? Or should I be creating a new thread for this?

samurailink3

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Registered: 2014-07-08

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

Skydive - This looks to be a bug in libinput (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208992). I'm sure the fix will float down to Arch Linux here soon.

Skydive

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Registered: 2015-05-25

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Re: Mouse 'deadzone / sleeping' in Xorg?

It's a real shame that it's still not fixed for me. I'm not sure what to do about this.
Was it a bad idea to necro this thread?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/St … e_Deadzone
This doesn't work. Quoting my prior post: "uninstalling libinput would also require me to uninstall plasma-desktop."

I would really appreciate a solution to this issue. I cannot play CS:GO with my friends D:

UPDATE:
I've fixed the issue. It turns out that removing xf86-input-libinput alone is good enough to sort the issue out. I'm not sure why.
Thanks for the link references and help!

Last edited by Skydive (2015-06-18 13:03:43)