[solved] Samsung laptop can't load grub after new installation

mechanic · 2014-03-30 15:25:21

Hello everyone. I used to work in Arch linux at my desktop. One year ago I started to use laptop Samsung np530u3b. This laptop has one bootable hdd Hitachi (500gb) and 16gb ssd (so system from this ssd can't be loaded cause ssd is not presents in BIOS ). I use fedora linux for one year and everything works perfectly. When I've installed fedora, hdd (dev/sda) was bootable and I installed grub there. And many other people installed distros like fedora or ubuntu correctly.

Nowadays when I've trying to install Arch linux I have one big problem: laptop can't load grub installed at hdd (/dev/sda). The laptop goes to interminable reboot, and grub isn't load everytime. I installed Arch from wiki (prepared hard drive, installed base and base-devel, etc) but laptop still unusable to work.

I tryied to use GPT, MBR partition table at laptop but it wasn't a solution.

BTW, Samsung np530u3b makes me crying. All UEFI, secure boot, fast boot were turned off. But laptop still cant to load system correctly. Only displaying blank screen without any symbols for ~1 second and reboot after that.

What could I do wrong?

Last edited by mechanic (2015-04-21 10:29:57)

Debasish Patra · 2014-03-30 17:11:19

mechanic,
I would suggest to go with UEFI and use gummiboot as bootloader. Lot less hassle. Still the issue you mentioned seems kind of strange...

I have been using Arch UEFI for months. It never caused any problem and I kind of dont like the grub 2.

Do you have any other OS installed ?

Last edited by Debasish Patra (2014-03-30 17:13:57)

mechanic · 2014-03-30 17:24:42

Debasish Patra wrote:

mechanic,
I would suggest to go with UEFI and use gummiboot as bootloader. Lot less hassle. Still the issue you mentioned seems kind of strange...
I have been using Arch UEFI for months. It never caused any problem and I kind of dont like the grub 2.

Thank you. I'll try it now. Again. Cause my last attempts to boot via usb over UEFI were failed. :]

Debasish Patra wrote:

Do you have any other OS installed ?

Nope. There is no OS installed on this laptop. I found a fork named 'antegros' but it didn't make something new. Reboot, reboot, reboot.

Debasish Patra · 2014-03-30 18:31:08

You are welcome. Just make sure that you format a EFI partition as mentioned in the Arch beginners guide

mechanic · 2014-03-30 19:02:53

BTW I am very interested in what's going wrong. :\

Debasish Patra · 2014-03-30 19:56:39

Did u try the way I suggested ? If yes, did it work ?

mechanic · 2014-03-31 05:58:57

Debasish Patra wrote:

Did u try the way I suggested ? If yes, did it work ?

Is it normal when installation usb won't boot via UEFI?

UPD: without UEFI syslinux can't be loaded too.

Last edited by mechanic (2014-03-31 15:52:25)

rohan-04 · 2014-04-01 14:55:36

Im not too sure what your questions is, Grub itself isnt booting or is the OS not booting from GRUB? UEFI is quite new are you sure you configured it Boot manager for UEFI? Have you tried to use the arch install disk to chain load the arch installed on your computer?

if you can post back with some more information? Possibly what you did to configure the Bootloader? You're porblem surely lies there

Last edited by rohan-04 (2014-04-01 14:57:15)

mechanic · 2014-04-01 18:57:42

rohan-04 wrote:

Im not too sure what your questions is, Grub itself isnt booting or is the OS not booting from GRUB? UEFI is quite new are you sure you configured it Boot manager for UEFI? Have you tried to use the arch install disk to chain load the arch installed on your computer?

Thank you for the answer. Grub itself is not loaded so nothing happened and laptop had gone to reboot after that. I don't see any Grub menu or other things: only black screen about 1 second and reboot after that.

rohan-04 wrote:

if you can post back with some more information? Possibly what you did to configure the Bootloader? You're porblem surely lies there

Sure. I have one HDD ( /dev/sda ) and one SSD ( /dev/sdb ). I'm trying to install Arch to my HDD based on newbie and other guides. I successfully made partitions, filesystems and I able to load arch-chroot from usb to see installed system. After that and some unnecessary actions like setting encoding I'm trying to install bootloader like this:

# pacman -S grub
# grub-install /dev/sda
# grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

This perfectly works at my desktop but laptop absolutely won't load grub. Reboot, reboot, reboot. I didn't make strange things at installation and I really confused cause other Linux distros install grub successful.

Debasish Patra · 2014-04-01 20:01:58

Are u able to bootup with the iso image with usb/cd ?

Debasish Patra · 2014-04-01 20:02:54

Try with gummiboot. It's really easy.

jasonwryan · 2014-04-01 20:30:03

Debashish, please stop bumping the thread: learn to use the edit button...

rohan-04 · 2014-04-01 21:11:29

This perfectly works at my desktop but laptop absolutely won't load grub. Reboot, reboot, reboot. I didn't make strange things at installation and I really confused cause other Linux distros install grub successful.

Okay and what about the format of the patition you are trying to install grub on? Are you following the Wiki instruction of 2 partitions one for /mnt and one for /home? Are you sure all the essentials are checked? for example what i mean is that the boot order is correct?
And BTW syslinux will boot from USB with UEFI,atleast the usb install did.

mechanic · 2014-04-03 10:20:49

rohan-04 wrote:

Okay and what about the format of the patition you are trying to install grub on? Are you following the Wiki instruction of 2 partitions one for /mnt and one for /home? Are you sure all the essentials are checked? for example what i mean is that the boot order is correct?

I've tried to install grub on ext4 partition which presents as '/' cataloge in mount. I made two partitions for '/' and '/home'

rohan-04 wrote:

And BTW syslinux will boot from USB with UEFI,atleast the usb install did.

I made UEFI installation USB yesterday but laptop still can't loaded from this one. USB presents in menu like UEFI installation USB (or something similar) but nothing happens again and again, only blank black screen without any symbols, kernel panics, etc. I've tried to use 3 usb flashcards and I didn't succeed in it.

mechanic · 2015-04-21 10:28:58

The problem has gone. Arch was installed on my laptop successfully on main hard disk. Magic is real.

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