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#1 2004-02-20 18:34:33

lilsirecho
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add programs to system from internet via pacman

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     Can a program from non-arch archives be downloaded into the arch system into pacman install procedure ? 

    Would such a .tar.gz be entered into the current or extra file?  Or neither?

    If a program were installed in normal non-pacman procedure, what happens if pacman upgrade is initiated?


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#2 2004-02-20 18:43:12

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Re: add programs to system from internet via pacman

lilsirecho wrote:

big_smile  smile Gents;
     Can a program from non-arch archives be downloaded into the arch system into pacman install procedure ?

no. make a package.

Would such a .tar.gz be entered into the current or extra file?  Or neither?

neither

If a program were installed in normal non-pacman procedure, what happens if pacman upgrade is initiated?

pacman will upgrade those packages that pacman is responsible for not ones you personally install outside of pacman. if you know how to compile then read up on how to make a package. look through abs and the various posts on this forum that show you what goes into making a package. the arch build system is so easy it is ridiculous to build and install anything outside of it especially if you later install a pacman packge that has conflicts with that source you compiled and installed.


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#3 2004-02-20 19:12:45

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Re: add programs to system from internet via pacman

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   I conclude that if one installs package or packages with "make package" that pacman can no longer be used to upgrade due to the strong possibility of conflicts.

  The alternative is to use pacman exclusively and not avail oneself of programs not included in the "strait jacket" of pacman.  Thus initial install and upgrade at install time would be useful but not the continual use of pacman if one desires programs outside the archives in pacman arch.  Is this correct?


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#4 2004-02-20 20:59:16

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Re: add programs to system from internet via pacman

archlinux package  are not simple tar.gz of binary. pacman when install a package has info about dependencies,  where to put files,  post install script etc. etc.
You can use anyway precompiled package but in this way pacman do not have any guess about their existence in the syste and where are their file.
If you want you can build you own package it is quite easy, there are already any kind of example (using CVS as sorce, using bynary,  that patch the code before compiling....)
To have more info about package making there is an howto in the docs.
Consider that actually there are a lot of package that are in current and in exrat that were made by people from the comunity and then submitted to arch repository.
Package that are announced in new package section of the forum
are made by people from the comunity.
Consider also to consult tur for other package.
http://tur.berlios.de/

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