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#1 2015-08-10 07:34:45

mazza
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Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

I've tried to update arch, and i get a dependency issue.. I cannot figure out how to troubleshoot or fix this myself.

one% sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 multilib is up to date
 archlinuxfr is up to date
 compiz-mate is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace dnsutils with extra/bind-tools? [Y/n] y
:: Replace libcl with extra/ocl-icd? [Y/n] y
:: Replace libdbusmenu-qt with extra/libdbusmenu-qt4? [Y/n] y
:: Replace libnm-gtk with extra/nm-connection-editor? [Y/n] y
:: Replace lua-bitop with community/lua52-bitop? [Y/n] y
:: Replace mate-media-pulseaudio with community/mate-media? [Y/n] y
:: Replace mate-settings-daemon-pulseaudio with community/mate-settings-daemon? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: compiz-decorator-gtk: requires mate-window-manager
one%

Last edited by mazza (2015-08-10 11:12:28)

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#2 2015-08-10 07:44:02

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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

Read up on the AUR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR

Managing unsupported packages is your responsibility, not pacman's...



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#3 2015-08-10 10:02:07

mazza
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

that still doesn't help me, how can I fix this problem? I read /AUR and it doesn't say anything about could not satisfy dependencies, or how to get around the problem.
I wonder what packages are conflicting, and why, how to solve this? what are the troubleshooting steps?

Last edited by mazza (2015-08-10 10:02:23)

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#4 2015-08-10 10:07:16

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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

You installed a package from the AUR. It's your job to manage that. What is not clear about that statement?


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#5 2015-08-10 10:26:03

ayekat
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

Welcome to the Arch Linux forum!

pacman wrote:
:: compiz-decorator-gtk: requires mate-window-manager

Where did you get that package from? It's not in the official repositories, so if dependencies break, it's usually the user's job to handle that. In that case, there is a dependency from one unofficial package (compiz-decorator-gtk) on another (mate-window-manager). Have you checked whether the latter is installed on your system? Or available at all? According to pacman, it seems not.


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#6 2015-08-10 10:43:17

mazza
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

I think it used to be on AUR at some point.. so how do I find out if it's installed, if it's needed, how to remove it saftely if not needed?
it might be from archlinuxfr, how would I check where it's from I wonder.
I tried to open mate-window-manager and it says it's not there, where do I go on from here?

one% mate-window-manager
zsh: command not found: mate-window-manager

ah so it requires it but isn't there.. hmm.

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#7 2015-08-10 10:52:47

ayekat
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

mazza wrote:

so how do I find out if it's installed, if it's needed, how to remove it saftely if not needed?

pacman -Qi compiz-decorator-gtk

This should tell you what packages depend on this package (aka "reverse dependencies"). Also, if you run

pacman -Si compiz-decorator-gtk

(if it finds a result) it should state which repository will ship this package (on the first line), and which package it depends on.


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#8 2015-08-10 10:57:45

mazza
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

I get this from those commands;

one% pacman -Qi compiz-decorator-gtk
Name           : compiz-decorator-gtk
Version        : 0.8.9-4
Description    : Compiz decorator for GNOME
Architecture   : x86_64
URL            : [url]http://www.compiz.org/[/url]
Licenses       : GPL  LGPL  MIT
Groups         : compiz-mate  compiz-gtk  compiz-fusion
Provides       : None
Depends On     : mate-control-center  gconf  libwnck  compiz-core
                 mate-window-manager
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : None
Optional For   : None
Conflicts With : compiz  compiz-core-git  compiz-git
Replaces       : compiz
Installed Size :   2.13 MiB
Packager       : Unknown Packager
Build Date     : Fri 23 Aug 2013 01:53:18 ACST
Install Date   : Mon 28 Oct 2013 10:53:44 ACDT
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Validated By   : SHA256 Sum
one% pacman -Si compiz-decorator-gtk
Repository     : compiz-mate
Name           : compiz-decorator-gtk
Version        : 0.8.9-4
Description    : Compiz decorator for GNOME
Architecture   : x86_64
URL            : [url]http://www.compiz.org/[/url]
Licenses       : GPL  LGPL  MIT
Groups         : compiz-mate  compiz-gtk  compiz-fusion
Provides       : None
Depends On     : mate-control-center  gconf  libwnck  compiz-core
                 mate-window-manager
Optional Deps  : None
Conflicts With : compiz  compiz-core-git  compiz-git
Replaces       : compiz
Download Size  : 229.24 KiB
Installed Size : 2177.00 KiB
Packager       : Unknown Packager
Build Date     : Fri 23 Aug 2013 01:53:18 ACST
Validated By   : MD5 Sum  SHA256 Sum

Last edited by mazza (2015-08-10 11:12:05)

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#9 2015-08-10 11:01:01

karol
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

mazza wrote:

so how do I find out if it's installed, if it's needed, how to remove it saftely if not needed?

Read the man page for pacman.

mazza wrote:

it might be from archlinuxfr, how would I check where it's from I wonder.

Check what unofficial repositories you have in your pacman.conf. pacman doesn't keep the info where was the package installed from, although you can mark packages you installed from the AUR / ABS as compiled by you.

mazza wrote:

one% mate-window-manager
zsh: command not found: mate-window-manager

ah so it requires it but isn't there.. hmm.

The name of the binary may be different from the package name.

When posting configs, code or command output, please use [ code ] tags https://bbs.archlinux.org/help.php#bbcode

like this

It makes the code more readable and - in case of longer listings - more convenient to scroll through.

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#10 2015-08-10 11:09:59

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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

karol wrote:

Read the man page for pacman.

Almost everything after your first post can and should have just been answered with this.  Please take some time to learn what you are doing.  Feel free to ask for clarification if/when you are confused by what you have read, but don't ask if you have just not bothered to take any time to try to figure something out yourself.

Don't become a help vampire.


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#11 2015-08-10 11:10:37

mazza
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

I've looked through my /etc/pacman.conf, a friend of mine has created this repo, it's his issue to fix, thanks for all this info smile
he created a repo which has compiz files that specifically work with MATE.
I'll message him.
thanks a lot ayekat and karol for the info needed to troubleshoot this issue, it's exactly what I needed.
google didn't have any answer so I came here. all I needed was the troubleshooting steps trilby.. now I have them. thanks all.

Last edited by mazza (2015-08-10 11:22:16)

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#12 2015-08-10 11:56:51

Scimmia
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

I hate to even ask this, but how long has it been since you've done an update?

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#13 2015-08-10 13:19:04

karol
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Re: Cannot update with -Syu, can't figure out dependancy issue

Scimmia wrote:

I hate to even ask this, but how long has it been since you've done an update?

I did a quick search and seems it's been at least 3 months: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … 646b43fc8d

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