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#1 2006-04-06 13:03:41

rdoggsv
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did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

Hey hello everyone i have a big problem , and its that i did last night a pacman -Syu , and i can say in one year of using arch this is the first time i came here with problems from the upgrade. I tried booting with the full-initrd.img and that didnt help.

so it goes like this

Activating swap   [FAIL]
...
mount can't find /proc int /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
mount point /dev/shm does not exist
"then it goes one line per entry in /etc/fstab"
.
.
starting Syslog-NG
error opening file /proc/kmsg for reading (no such file or directory) [FAIL]
.
and more and more errors
.


so in my newb life with linux i would say its something with the udev, but well i know u guys know what this is all about and can get me running fast as always big_smile

i noticed something also , for example i have a rc.conf file that is not the one i used to have (my own modified one) , its a new one , i tried renaming the .pacsave to rc.conf and booting but that wont do the job.

Any ideas at all would be really apreciated
cheers
rdoggsv

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#2 2006-04-06 18:22:49

patroclo7
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

I apologize for the following stupid suggestion but: is /etc/fstab the same as before, or has it been erroneously upgraded (this should not happen with the default /etc/pacman.conf) ?


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#3 2006-04-06 21:37:24

rdoggsv
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

patroclo7 wrote:

I apologize for the following stupid suggestion but: is /etc/fstab the same as before, or has it been erroneously upgraded (this should not happen with the default /etc/pacman.conf) ?

hey man thanx for your intentions on helping me , but as i dint notice any intentions on someone to reply my thread i reinstalled arch , because i tought something like "nobody answers cause this is a big problem" and went 2 days without arch , so as i had one parttition for /etc and another for /home , i did my ftp reinstall in about 15 minutes tongue so the problem is over now , thanx again.

but is good to say i wont be applying pacman -Syu anymore in the near future

rdoggsv 8)

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#4 2006-04-06 23:59:06

brain0
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

rdoggsv wrote:

[but is good to say i wont be applying pacman -Syu anymore in the near future

That might be a bad idea.

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#5 2006-04-07 01:32:02

rdoggsv
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

[root@bulletproof kernel26]# pacman -S bootsplash initscripts-bootsplash

Remove:  initscripts

Targets: bootsplash-3.1-3 initscripts-bootsplash-0.7-1

Total Package Size:   0.2 MB

Proceed with upgrade? [Y/n] y

:: Retrieving packages from brice...
 bootsplash-3.1-3         [################] 100%     151K    56.5K/s  00:00:02
 initscripts-bootsplash-0 [################] 100%       8K    10.8K/s  00:00:00

checking package integrity... done.
removing initscripts...
warning: /etc/rc.local saved as /etc/rc.local.pacsave
warning: /etc/rc.conf saved as /etc/rc.conf.pacsave
warning: /etc/inittab saved as /etc/inittab.pacsave
done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts... done.
installing bootsplash... done.
  --
  You've just pacmaned bootsplash.
  Please notice that for this package to work, you need a bootsplash-enabled
  kernel.
  If you've got any question on how to get this working, you can either :
    1/ ask on #archlinux on irc.freenode.net
    2/ ask on the arch mailing list
  Note that you may also be interested by the initscripts-bootsplash package,
  that will allow you to get a nice progress bar at boot time.
  --
installing initscripts-bootsplash... done.

this was the thing that ruined my system big_smile

now i know it was not pacman -Syu messing with me !!!! maybe the wiki should be updated !!

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#6 2006-04-07 04:13:53

Snowman
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

It looks like your pacman.conf contains some of the old and obsolete TUR repos.  You should remove them and use the community repo instead. 
To have splash screen, install initscripts-gensplash from community repo.

EDIT: I just found the wiki article. It's quite old. There's a warning at the begining:

wiki wrote:

This document requires massive revision and is known not to work properly. Another work is in progress. The factual accuracy of this article is disputed.
Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page.

Better use gensplash as the package is maintained and it's what people, including myself, uses.

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#7 2006-04-07 04:34:21

rdoggsv
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

Snowman wrote:

Better use gensplash as the package is maintained and it's what people, including myself, uses.

hey man thanx for your help , at first before going with bootsplash i tried gensplash but couldn't find how to make the initrd as im rebuilding the stock kernel with the framebuffer ativated, and everyone tells me that if i want to use gensplash i need to go with the ck/beyond patched one.

So ad gensplash makes an initramfs or something like that , that is not compatible (as far as i know) with the initrd that i have i opted for using bootsplash.

lucky for me this 2nd try i noticed about the initscripts thing.

any help or advice would be appreciated on how to make the gensplash work with the stock kernel.

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#8 2006-04-07 04:48:23

Snowman
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

IIRC, I think that gensplash doesn't work with initrd. It needs initramfs. The easiest way would be to use the archck/beyond kernel.

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#9 2006-04-07 08:01:40

Sander
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

I installed gensplash recently, and initscripts-gensplash does the same thing! It also creates new rc.conf, rc.local and inittab files, which don't seem to differ in any way from the ones that come with arch by default sad I'm lucky I noticed this post install message. This shouldn't happen, right? Or should it?


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#10 2006-04-07 13:56:19

rdoggsv
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

no it shouldnt , and i was looking how could pacman replace rc.conf and all those files , if they are in pacman.conf as not to replace never !, but the answer was , i removed initscripts and dint notice , and maybe the ones that come with , initscripts-bootsplash are out of date or something like that , so they break your system.  :oops:

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#11 2006-04-08 02:03:41

Snowman
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Re: did pacman -Syu now i cant boot at all [solved]

When you install initscripts-gensplash, your current config files rc.conf, rc.local and inittab gets renamed to *.pacsave. You need to compare the stock files that comes in the initscripts-gensplash package with these pacsave files and edit them accordingly. You just need to add/modify a couple of lines. Then, rename them without the .pacsave extension.  You'll also need to edit your grub/lilo config.

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