.pla playlists

brighter · 2015-08-21 01:00:59

Hi all. I have a Sony Walkman wich supports .pla files for playlists. They can be created by Windows natively, but I'm yet to find a way to make them work in Linux. How do I handle this extension?

teckk · 2015-08-21 20:13:47

I briefly looked up .pla file.
Is that just a playlist? What does it's contents look like.

cat file.pla

You can make a .pls or m3u8 easy enough
test.pls

[playlist]
File1=/path/to/song1.mp3
File2=/path/to/song2.mp3
File3=/path/to/song3.mp3
NumberOfEntries=2

mplayer -playlist test.pls

test.m3u8

#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-VERSION:3
#EXT-X-STREAM-INF:PROGRAM-ID=1
/path/to/1.mp3
/path/to/2.mp3

mpv test.m3u8

To make a playlist out of the .mp3 in a directory something simple like:

for i in *.mp3; do
	echo "$i" >> list.pls
done

Or

mplayer $(for i in *.mp3; do echo "$i"; done)

but I'm yet to find a way to make them work in Linux

The playlist and the media files it points to both have to be on the machine.

brighter · 2015-08-21 21:47:33

teckk wrote:

I briefly looked up .pla file.
Is that just a playlist? What does it's contents look like.
cat file.pla

Interesting, the cat command gives no output...
Anyway I used programs like Clementine to make all possible kinds of playlists (pls, m3u, etc.). None of them is recognized by the Walkman, apparently it only reads .pla playlists.

progandy · 2015-08-21 23:05:36

Did you try a .wpl playlist?

brighter · 2015-08-21 23:30:56

progandy wrote:

Did you try a .wpl playlist?

I don't see why would I ever do it...
If I could use Windows for the playlist creation I would just make it in the .pla format...

progandy · 2015-08-21 23:39:16

brighter wrote:

progandy wrote:
Did you try a .wpl playlist?
I don't see why would I ever do it...

It is an XML file and the format is known, so you can create it on linux, too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_M … r_Playlist

Is your Sony device using MTP? Then maybe try using the mtp-... commands or look for an mtpfs implementation that supports playlists.
Edit: gmtp is a gtk application that may work, too. It claims to support m3u import.

Last edited by progandy (2015-08-21 23:53:59)

teckk · 2015-08-22 13:45:22

They can be created by Windows natively, but I'm yet to find a way to make them work in Linux.

Your original question was how to make a .pla play in Linux.

None of them is recognized by the Walkman,

Then in post 3 you say that you want to make them work on a walkman.

Is this what you are trying to do?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ7j3nIBUiE

Try google
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/sh … hp?t=34210
http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20 … 20playlist

brighter · 2015-08-22 22:01:13

progandy wrote:

brighter wrote:
progandy wrote:
Did you try a .wpl playlist?
I don't see why would I ever do it...
It is an XML file and the format is known, so you can create it on linux, too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_M … r_Playlist
Is your Sony device using MTP? Then maybe try using the mtp-... commands or look for an mtpfs implementation that supports playlists.
Edit: gmtp is a gtk application that may work, too. It claims to support m3u import.

Only the .pla files can be read... The strange thing is this file is always 0Kb, no matter how many songs inside the playlist,
This thread confirms it
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/sh … hp?t=56646

brighter · 2015-08-22 22:05:05

Then in post 3 you say that you want to make them work on a walkman.

I want to create them, but if I find a substitute I don't mind, the final purpose is what matters

Is this what you are trying to do?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ7j3nIBUiE

Yes, but without Windows

V1del · 2015-08-22 22:29:39

mtp-playlists from libmtp? btw teck posted a link containing a few pointers, have you read it? for closures sake you don't want pla files (as you've noticed they mean absolutely nothing by themselves), you want something that can create MTP protocoll-aware playlists (and the MTP protocoll can be pretty finicky to get to work, even on windows)

Last edited by V1del (2015-08-23 10:04:12)

thatsallyourspaceships · 2015-08-23 06:06:08

brighter wrote:

progandy wrote:
brighter wrote:
I don't see why would I ever do it...
It is an XML file and the format is known, so you can create it on linux, too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_M … r_Playlist
Is your Sony device using MTP? Then maybe try using the mtp-... commands or look for an mtpfs implementation that supports playlists.
Edit: gmtp is a gtk application that may work, too. It claims to support m3u import.
Only the .pla files can be read... The strange thing is this file is always 0Kb, no matter how many songs inside the playlist,
This thread confirms it
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/sh … hp?t=56646

Thats probably because the playlist gets written into the filedescription, the file itself remains untouched.

brighter · 2015-08-23 11:11:14

V1del wrote:

mtp-playlists from libmtp? btw teck posted a link containing a few pointers, have you read it? for closures sake you don't want pla files (as you've noticed they mean absolutely nothing by themselves), you want something that can create MTP protocoll-aware playlists (and the MTP protocoll can be pretty finicky to get to work, even on windows)

That's a very nice project. Unfortunately I tried and it doesn't work with the Sony Walkman (it was created for Sansa players).
Of course I checked the links, frankly I never had problems with this type of file in Windows.

brighter · 2015-08-23 11:14:06

thatsallyourspaceships wrote:

brighter wrote:
progandy wrote:
It is an XML file and the format is known, so you can create it on linux, too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_M … r_Playlist
Is your Sony device using MTP? Then maybe try using the mtp-... commands or look for an mtpfs implementation that supports playlists.
Edit: gmtp is a gtk application that may work, too. It claims to support m3u import.
Only the .pla files can be read... The strange thing is this file is always 0Kb, no matter how many songs inside the playlist,
This thread confirms it
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/sh … hp?t=56646
Thats probably because the playlist gets written into the filedescription, the file itself remains untouched.

Right. I didn't think about it... That's a good thinking... So does it mean it cannot be created on non-Windows systems? I think Mac OS should by able to make it through iTunes, but I have not a Mac OS system to try it

V1del · 2015-08-23 14:59:45

Have you tried any of the other solutions that have been posted by numerous people? have you tried mtp-playlists? does it flat out refuse to work? Is your device not at all recognized by it? I highly doubt that a mac/itunes will be able to, it doesn't support mtp either ootb.

Last edited by V1del (2015-08-23 15:10:58)

brighter · 2015-08-23 15:26:46

V1del wrote:

Have you tried any of the other solutions that have been posted by numerous people? have you tried mtp-playlists?

yes I tried, why do you keep asking if I try or read?

V1del wrote:

does it flat out refuse to work? Is your device not at all recognized by it?

It doesn't recognise the device

V1del wrote:

I highly doubt that a mac/itunes will be able to, it doesn't support mtp either ootb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PrlCB6nERU

V1del · 2015-08-23 16:05:44

You haven't mentioned that you have tried it, that's why I ask, because we should exhaust all options. Read the comments on that youtube video pretty much everyone says that playlists don't work. And "Sony Walkman" is a worthless catch all name, what's the actual model?

Literally a link posted there: https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/d … /related/1 they don't support it officially, if it works it works completely by chance.

Last edited by V1del (2015-08-23 16:08:05)

brighter · 2015-08-23 18:31:46

V1del wrote:

You haven't mentioned that you have tried it, that's why I ask, because we should exhaust all options. Read the comments on that youtube video pretty much everyone says that playlists don't work. And "Sony Walkman" is a worthless catch all name, what's the actual model

They work all the same way

V1del wrote:

Literally a link posted there: https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/d … /related/1 they don't support it officially, if it works it works completely by chance.

Interesting. Maybe it's time to switch to a more Linux friendly brand... I only know Walkmans and iPods

Arch Linux

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