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#1 2015-09-07 22:15:03

freshscaped
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[SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

Installed Arch, got the network going, neither without problems but all seemed good then installed Gnome. No Terminal, Gnome starts on boot. So no control. Is there a way to get rid of Gnome or at least to get some control?

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#2 2015-09-07 22:28:37

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

Can you switch to a tty? e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2, F3, etc.


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#3 2015-09-07 22:49:55

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

freshscaped wrote:

Gnome starts on boot. So no control. Is there a way to get rid of Gnome or at least to get some control?

How did you setup your DE to autostart?  GDM w/ auto-login?

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#4 2015-09-08 11:12:30

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

Thanks, WorMzy. That looks like a very good tip which I hope not to have to use since I re-wiped the disc and re-installed Arch, this time with a nice, clean instance in which everthing done so far has worked a treat. First time (on the PC) started with several attempts to persuade UEFI not to emulate BIOS and went downhill from there.

I am now reading through the pros and cons of the various desktop environments to see which one I fancy getting my head around configuring. Maybe Gnome, maybe not. I'll certainly read the list of what's included very carefully this time. I've probably been using Gnome for 10 years or more but it's been an awfully long time since I've had to get my hands in the engine, so to speak.

frank604, I installed using pacman, insofar as I can remember, in the same way I did on this laptop. But of course I must have either made a mistake or done something differently. I was very tired at the time. Was there a reason for the question? Excuse my audacity but I'm having difficulty working out how any answer I may have given could lead to constructive suggestions.

<edit>Gnome again. Although I'll try one of the less weighty desktops on this laptop once the PC is as required. But would somebody please tell me if I can get Gnome with a terminal or terminal emulator, without a load of games thrown in? More reading is leading to ever more confusion.</edit>

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#5 2015-09-08 22:50:26

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

freshscaped wrote:

Was there a reason for the question? Excuse my audacity but I'm having difficulty working out how any answer I may have given could lead to constructive suggestions.

Both in this thread and the other one today you are overreacting to solid advice and clear instructions from very experienced and long-time Archers. I would recommend toning it down or otherwise you will just get ignored. @frank604 is making a valiant attempt to decipher your rambling question in quotes. In his attempt, he is assuming that by "control" you mean that Gnome autostarts without logging in. Hence his question on whether you've set up GDM to auto-login. Nobody here at Arch cares *how* you installed anything, unless you've used AUR, ABS or some other method other than pacman. What we care about is how you *configured* GDM, Gnome, etc.

Obviously, what you mean by "control" is alluding all of us, especially how it would be connected to the title of this post "No Terminal in Gnome". Rather than playing the guessing game, why don't you explain what you are looking to accomplish, what you've done thus far and where you are stuck exactly? Leave out all the unnecessary adjectives such as "I was tired" and the ancient past of solved, prior problems.

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#6 2015-09-09 02:30:53

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

When you install Arch, it is just the bare bones and you should enter the console.  In this scenario, I'm guessing that you installed gnome and had a login manager automatically boot you into the DE.  So when you say "no control" and "no terminal", I take it you want to control which DE or WM is started.  So what I am asking is, what did you do to set your system so that it automatically gets you in Gnome?  If you haven't done anything then you probably used someone's install script or installed a derivative such as Antegros, in which case these distros are not supported here.  In the case that you did set it up yourself I was hoping my question would spark a thought and have you mentally go through what you did and just reverse it.  Such as disable GDM and have you boot to console and use xinit instead or a different login manager.

I hope that answered your question and perhaps gave some insight on what you should do next.

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#7 2015-09-09 09:18:29

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

twelveeighty, frank604, thnk you both and apolgies. This is, in spite of my not understanding to start with, turning into very useful stuff though. Yes, a login manager did automatically boot me into the DE. Added to which the gnome terminal would not start once there and I could not find the way out to get back into the system console. Pacman is so far only set up for the official repos and I have not used any other installation method. I didn't install GDM this time as I had half worked out that may have been the cause of my problem. But because of your replies I now know to look up login managers and specifically xinit. Hopefully others will find this useful too.

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#8 2015-09-09 09:21:48

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Re: [SOLVED] No Terminal in Gnome

freshscaped wrote:

Added to which the gnome terminal would not start once there

You need to set up your /etc/locale.conf correctly.

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