[SOLVED] Freezing continues, journal isn't helpful, narrowing it down

HappyClown · 2015-10-10 03:38:20

So, I've recently redid my installation for ArchLinux on my computer because it kept freezing more and more fequently the more I use it. I eventully ruled out that my EXT4 partitions were to blame, causing data loss in critical files after a few bad shutdowns. Now that I'm on my new system, it's been freezing again but way less frequently. I highly suspect it's being caused by a common program between both machines but was installed sometime before firefox was installed. This narrows down the culprit to:

xterm
xorg
wpa_supplicant
openbox
lxdm
grub
gedit

How can I possibly tell which one it is? I would suspect either grub, lxdm, openbox, wpa_supplicant or xorg.

Last edited by HappyClown (2015-10-12 17:29:10)

HappyClown · 2015-10-10 03:58:35

I'ts not the kernel, by the way, since the indicators aren't flashing. Also, I can't switch tty's. The whole system freezes up, I can't do anything.

HappyClown · 2015-10-10 22:44:15

Never mind, I just found out that it was probably a kernel panic. I purposely triggered one just to test what would happen and the indicators disn't flash. How do I troubleshoot the cause of this?

kainlite · 2015-10-11 06:43:11

I'm experiencing similar issues, since upgrading to latest kernel and some other libs like libtorrent and libtorrent-rasterbar, for example if i open qbittorrent, deluge, transmission or idk any bittorrent client my machine freezes, also trying to charge some devices via usb , really annoying, before upgrading to gnome 3.16 and kernel 4.1.10-1 all was good... can you check if you've similar issues, i think it's kernel related, but it's impossible to debug, since i open any bittorrent client and in 2 minutes my machine is frozen, only solution is to reboot and don't use bittorrent clients..

HappyClown · 2015-10-11 06:51:55

For me, it happens with just about any program I run. It seems almost random too. For me, it seems like some sort of background process is causing the panic. Journalctl doesn't give me any info...

ooo · 2015-10-11 10:13:32

there's a known bug in 4.1.9 and 4.1.10 kernels that causes freezes at least with -ck patchset. Try downgrading to 4.1.8

HappyClown · 2015-10-11 12:25:45

uname -a claims my kernel version is 4.2.2-1.

Ogis1975 · 2015-10-11 13:33:27

Exactly the same problem with kernel 4.1.10-1-LTS. I upgrade kernel to version 4.1.10-2-LTS, and now problem gone.

HappyClown · 2015-10-11 14:08:26

I've looked up how to downgrade the kernel but it doesn't give instructions for when you don't have the lesser kernel in your cache. How can I downgrade using the ARM? Do I have to use my install image?

frank604 · 2015-10-11 17:14:52

@Happyclown, you are using the mainline kernel. The others are talking about the LTS (long term support) kernel which you can install via pacman.

To answer your question about downgrading,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Do … g_packages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … ck_Machine

ooo · 2015-10-11 17:36:25

@Happyclown, maybe you could test if you have the same problem with linux-lts-4.1.10-2 (which should include a fix for the deadlock I mentioned above). If it works your issue is caused by something in 4.2 kernel.

HappyClown · 2015-10-11 17:46:28

Thanks, I'll try the LTS kernel (The kernel should be mentioned in the beginners guide somewhere, it'd be really helpful.) I'll report back sometime in the next 12hrs. I'll see if I can edit the wiki to sneak in a blurb.

HappyClown · 2015-10-12 02:50:39

After switching to the LTS kernel the machine runs perfectly without a single panic. How do I make this the default option in GRUB?

frank604 · 2015-10-12 04:03:12

You edit /etc/default/grub and change the line:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0

0 is the first entry, 1 is the second, etc.
Update grub after this and reboot, you will then have the default entry selected.

HappyClown · 2015-10-12 05:39:34

Well, there are two options. One is ArchLinux, the other is a sub menu called "advanced options for linux" and in that menu, there's "Arch Linux with Linux Linux", "Arch Linux with Linux Linux (Fallback)", "Arch Linux with Linux Linux LTS" and "Arch Linux with Linux Linux LTS (Fallback)". Which one is the right entry, considering the LTS kernel is within a sub menu. Would it just be DEFAULT=1:3?

frank604 · 2015-10-12 06:33:14

Oh, if you prefer, you can add

GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y

I always hated that submenu. Then follow what I posted earlier.

HappyClown · 2015-10-12 17:28:41

Works perfectly, thanks! Who ever said the Arch User Community wasn't helpful?

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