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#1 2006-04-12 21:41:16
- paranoos
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gawk and mawk
Looks like mawk has been moved to Extra, and gawk moved to Current. pacman wanted to replace mawk with gawk, so I said yes.
:: Replace mawk with gawk from "current"? [Y/n]
Remove: mawk
Targets: gawk-3.1.5-2 kernel26-2.6.16.4-1 mawk-1.3.3-7 php-5.1.2-3
...
checking package integrity... done.
removing mawk... done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts... done.
installing gawk... done.
upgrading kernel26... done.
>>> Generating initial ramdisk. Please wait...
>>> Generating fallback ramdisk. Please wait...
>>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ...
installing mawk... done.
upgrading php... done.so... it removed mawk, then downloaded and installed both mawk and gawk.
If I try to remove mawk manually, pacman reports that it's required by autoconf and sysvinit.
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#2 2006-04-12 21:50:59
- paranoos
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Re: gawk and mawk
I should check a couple other things. pacman -Qi reports several funny things...
mawk says it's required by: autoconf sysvinit
gawk says it's required by: autoconf initscripts man sysvinit
autoconf says it depends on: bash diffutils gawk m4
sysvinit says it depends on: coreutils gawk glibc shadow util-linux
Both mawk and gawk provide awk. they don't conflict. pacman -Si reveals that gawk replaces mawk.
In actual fact, autoconf and sysvinit depend on mawk, and initscripts and man depend on the provided "awk". The true error is the dependency on mawk, however, pacman knows gawk replaces mawk, and that the packages -Qi page says it requires gawk, so it should not have installed mawk again.
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#3 2006-04-13 00:03:39
- Snowman
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Re: gawk and mawk
Submit a bug report.
Here, autoconf and sysvinit depends on mawk. I guess they should depend on awk (or gawk?).
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#4 2006-04-13 00:28:56
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Re: gawk and mawk
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#5 2006-04-13 08:33:57
- codemac
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Re: gawk and mawk
Everything should depend on "awk" not "gawk" or "mawk" _unless_ they specifically can't run without that version of awk.
So "awk" is what they should have. Haven't checked bugs yet to see if it's been posted.
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#6 2006-04-13 16:55:13
- Snowman
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Re: gawk and mawk
I just submitted a bug report.
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#7 2006-04-13 17:02:06
- brain0
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Re: gawk and mawk
They actually depend on awk - according to the PKGBUILD files.
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#8 2006-04-13 17:24:31
- Snowman
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True. I think that had to do because initscripts-gensplash was depending on mawk. I changed that dependency to awk. And rebuilt the package. Then I removed mawk with pacman -Rd.
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#9 2006-04-13 20:05:35
- Gullible Jones
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Re: gawk and mawk
I just submitted a bug report.
Ah shit... I searched for bug reports about gawk and turned up nothing so I submitted one too. :oops:
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#10 2006-04-13 21:08:17
- ozar
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Re: gawk and mawk
Yeah, Judd has already marked Snowman's bug report as "fixed and closed".
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#11 2006-04-13 21:49:25
- elasticdog
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Re: gawk and mawk
So which one should we have on our systems now? I'm lost amid all the mawk/gawk tawlk... 
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#12 2006-04-13 21:52:27
- ozar
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So which one should we have on our systems now? I'm lost amid all the mawk/gawk tawlk...
Yeah, me too... I've been holding off on upgrading until the dust has settled but I'm still getting the pacman question about replacing mawk with gawk. It's damned confusing to say the least. :?
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#13 2006-04-13 22:21:57
- Lone_Wolf
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Re: gawk and mawk
Archlinux.org already has all the packages correct, mawk is no longer present on my system.
Just wait until the mirrors are synced.
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#14 2006-04-14 00:00:17
- ozar
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Re: gawk and mawk
After reading what Judd wrote about it in Gullible's bug report, it all makes sense now:
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#15 2006-04-14 00:18:11
- Snowman
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Re: gawk and mawk
Just to clarify a bit what I wrote above. When I said that I rebuilt the package, I didn't changed the community package just the one on my system. I emailed dibble about it though. I assume he will fix it when he'll be able to.
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