Pulse audio fails to unmute after recent update

zahn01 · 2015-10-06 00:03:39

Greetings all,
Every since one of the recent system upgrades, Pulseaudio fails to output sound. According to the pulseaudio volume control, everything is muted. The ArchWiki gives steps for identifying sinks and then unmuting said sinks. Additionally, setting volume to 100% in accordance with the wiki does nothing. Nothing from Google has helped in the resolution of this problem. I used the instructions from pulseaudio at freedesktop.org ( http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar … umentation http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar … rfectSetup ). This means I read and applied their documentation from step 1 through the perfect setup, it all failed.

I will gladly provide copies of whatever file(s) one needs to help me resolve this issue, but please understand that I come from seven years of ALSA, on various distros running encrypted lvms, to include Arch Linux (sometimes on software Raid1 and software Raid10) and I have never, never, ever had an ALSA sound issue, (not even on freebsd with ufs/zfs on encrypted geli running gmirror and gestripe (Freebsd's Raid10) so please specify complete filepaths when requesting logs, etc. Abbreviated request would result most likely in me using find, grep and Google and not being able to comply.

The system in question consist of KDE/Openbox. The openbox side has lxpanel, nitrogen theme, obmenu obconf. I somehow doubt that conflicts are arising from this configuration.
Thanks in advance.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-06 21:30:13)

zahn01 · 2015-10-06 21:33:07

Additional note: I am using pulseaudio because available information tells me that one must have Pulseaudio if one is running Skype, which I am.

V1del · 2015-10-06 23:34:23

provide the following output

sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
pacmd list-cards
pacmd list-sinks

Also if you are that fond of plain ALSA you might be interested in using Apulse instead of pulseaudio to satisfy skype's dependency while remaining on ALSA

Last edited by V1del (2015-10-06 23:34:53)

zahn01 · 2015-10-07 03:15:19

First of all, thanks for responding. I greatly appreciate it.

V1del wrote:

provide the following output
sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
...

                     USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0:  localuser01    929 F.... pulseaudio
/dev/snd/controlC1:  localuser01    929 F.... pulseaudio

V1del wrote:

provide the following output
pacmd list-cards
...

$ pacmd list-cards
2 card(s) available.
    index: 0
        name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_01.1>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        owner module: 6
        properties:
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HD-Audio Generic"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HD-Audio Generic at 0xf0444000 irq 26"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:01.1"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "1002"
                device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]"
                device.product.id = "1314"
                device.product.name = "Wrestler HDMI Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "0"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        profiles:
                output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (priority 5400, available: unknown)
                output:hdmi-surround: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output (priority 300, available: unknown)
                output:hdmi-surround71: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI) Output (priority 300, available: unknown)
                off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
        active profile: <output:hdmi-stereo>
        sinks:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_01.1.hdmi-stereo/#0: Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)
        sources:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_01.1.hdmi-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)
        ports:
                hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "video-display"
    index: 1
        name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_14.2>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        owner module: 7
        properties:
                alsa.card = "1"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA ATI SB"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA ATI SB at 0xf0440000 irq 16"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:14.2"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "1002"
                device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]"
                device.product.id = "4383"
                device.product.name = "SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "1"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        profiles:
                input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (priority 60, available: unknown)
                output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (priority 6000, available: unknown)
                output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (priority 6060, available: unknown)
                off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
        active profile: <output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo>
        sinks:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo/#1: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
        sources:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo.monitor/#1: Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
                alsa_input.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo/#2: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
        ports:
                analog-input-internal-mic: Internal Microphone (priority 8900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
                analog-input-mic: Microphone (priority 8700, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
                analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
                analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"

V1del wrote:

provide the following output
pacmd list-sinks
...

pacmd list-sinks
2 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
        name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_01.1.hdmi-stereo>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
        state: SUSPENDED
        suspend cause: IDLE 
        priority: 9950
        volume: front-left: 0 /   0% / -inf dB,   front-right: 0 /   0% / -inf dB
                balance 0.00
        base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
        volume steps: 65537
        muted: no
        current latency: 0.00 ms
        max request: 0 KiB
        max rewind: 0 KiB
        monitor source: 0
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        used by: 0
        linked by: 0
        configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1837.33 ms
        card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_01.1>
        module: 6
        properties:
                alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
                device.api = "alsa"
                device.class = "sound"
                alsa.class = "generic"
                alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
                alsa.name = "HDMI 0"
                alsa.id = "HDMI 0"
                alsa.subdevice = "0"
                alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
                alsa.device = "3"
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HD-Audio Generic"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HD-Audio Generic at 0xf0444000 irq 26"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:01.1"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "1002"
                device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]"
                device.product.id = "1314"
                device.product.name = "Wrestler HDMI Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "hdmi:0"
                device.buffering.buffer_size = "352768"
                device.buffering.fragment_size = "176384"
                device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
                device.profile.name = "hdmi-stereo"
                device.profile.description = "Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
                alsa.mixer_name = "ATI R6xx HDMI"
                alsa.components = "HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100200"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        ports:
                hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "video-display"
        active port: <hdmi-output-0>
    index: 1
        name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
        state: SUSPENDED
        suspend cause: IDLE 
        priority: 9959
        volume: front-left: 39126 /  60% / -13.44 dB,   front-right: 39126 /  60% / -13.44 dB
                balance 0.00
        base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
        volume steps: 65537
        muted: no
        current latency: 0.00 ms
        max request: 0 KiB
        max rewind: 0 KiB
        monitor source: 1
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        used by: 0
        linked by: 0
        configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1999.82 ms
        card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_14.2>
        module: 7
        properties:
                alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
                device.api = "alsa"
                device.class = "sound"
                alsa.class = "generic"
                alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
                alsa.name = "92HD81B1X5 Analog"
                alsa.id = "92HD81B1X5 Analog"
                alsa.subdevice = "0"
                alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
                alsa.device = "0"
                alsa.card = "1"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA ATI SB"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA ATI SB at 0xf0440000 irq 16"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:14.2"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2/sound/card1"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "1002"
                device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]"
                device.product.id = "4383"
                device.product.name = "SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "front:1"
                device.buffering.buffer_size = "352768"
                device.buffering.fragment_size = "176384"
                device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
                device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
                device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
                alsa.mixer_name = "IDT 92HD81B1X5"
                alsa.components = "HDA:111d7605,103c3562,00100105"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        ports:
                analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
                analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
                        properties:
                                device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
        active port: <analog-output-headphones>

You mention Apulse. Two questions: In your opinion is it the same thing as Alsa (painlessly easy to use) but adapted to work with Skype? Will using it be as easy as using regular Alsa, or will it require the heretofore vast knowledge and time expenditure associated with Pulseaudio? Again, I thank you for your response.

Addendum for developers (an aside from the above): Five years ago, I found a thirty year old computer with a casette tape hard drive, and the sound functioned. My attitude on sound is simple: If I want a 21 chanel setup, I expect pain; If I want two-chanel stereo during dvd playback, it needs to just work even if it the sound system has advanced capabilities. I suspect many think like me. They are just too afraid of not getting help to express it.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-07 03:32:12)

V1del · 2015-10-07 11:03:53

Apulse provides a shim to make skype think it is talking to pulseaudio while in fact the standard ALSA setup will be used. So if you have an actually working ALSA setup there won't be any necessary complexity apart from what is outlined in the paragraph I linked. I can't provide more aside from that since I don't use it, as I consider pulseaudio painlessly easy to use for my usecases

The problem with your addendum is that people have many different requirements and pulseaudio works just fine for a whole lot of them. Don't project your own experiences on everyone, as everyone will likely have different experiences from yours. Pulseaudio provides many capabilities on top of ALSA that are impossible or very cumbersome to get working with plain ALSA itself, dynamic switching on USB/BT headset/HDMI connect without downtime of soundoutput being likely the most important one

Now on to your pulseaudio problem. Something I notice is that the default sink (as indicated by the * at the side of the index line) is your HDMI card. Since you are talking about skype and friends I doubt that this is what you want. So go into pavucontrol's output devices tab, and set the other card as the "fallback device" and then start some sound. As pulseaudio remembers which sink you had a recurring soundstream on, if you used that same program in your earlier attempts you might have to switch the sink of the program itself over to your internal card instead of HDMI on the output streams tab. Completely new streams should automatically make use of the internal card.

Addendum: If this problem initially surfaced because your cards (HDMI and internal) boot order where switched, this isn't because of pulseaudio, this is in fact because of the kernel/udev/alsa not defining a set order by default, which can and will happen with ALSA too, look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ad … sound_card (you don't need to do this if you use pulseaudio and explicitly set a correct default as outlined above, it wouldn't hurt anyway, especially if you intend to only use ALSA)

Last edited by V1del (2015-10-07 14:23:21)

zahn01 · 2015-10-08 04:49:38

V1del wrote:

Apulse provides a shim to make skype think it is talking to pulseaudio while in fact the standard ALSA setup will be used. So if you have an actually working ALSA setup there won't be any necessary complexity apart from what is outlined in the paragraph I linked. I can't provide more aside from that since I don't use it, as I consider pulseaudio painlessly easy to use for my usecases...

First of all, thanks for the depth and detail of your responses. Without taking away from those who have previously helped me, and considering the advanced nature of 'Arch Linux,' you are definitely different from many forum members, and I say that as a compliment. I've chosen to respond to each of your paragraphs as succinctly as possible.
I will strongly consider the above concerning Apulse and thanks. The only reason to stick with Pulseaudio at this point is the chance of learning something new.

V1del wrote:

The problem with your addendum is that people have many different requirements and pulseaudio works just fine for a whole lot of them. Don't project your own experiences on everyone, as everyone will likely have different experiences from yours. Pulseaudio provides many capabilities on top of ALSA that are impossible or very cumbersome to get working with plain ALSA itself, dynamic switching on USB/BT headset/HDMI connect without downtime of soundoutput being likely the most important one

As for my addendum it was not meant as a blanket statement for %80 or more of Linux users. However, I am confident that my addendum, applies to %15 - %50 of users. I do not care how capable pulseaudio is. If it cannot function and provide sound during flack, ogg or dvd playback, it worthless. Especially when decades old computers will do so, just my two cents.

V1del wrote:

Now on to your pulseaudio problem. Something I notice is that the default sink (as indicated by the * at the side of the index line) is your HDMI card. Since you are talking about skype and friends I doubt that this is what you want. So go into pavucontrol's output devices tab, and set the other card as the "fallback device" and then start some sound. As pulseaudio remembers which sink you had a recurring soundstream on, if you used that same program in your earlier attempts you might have to switch the sink of the program itself over to your internal card instead of HDMI on the output streams tab. Completely new streams should automatically make use of the internal card.

As for your Pavucontrol output solution, I thank you, but it cannot function on my computer and result in success for the following reasons. Nothing controls Pavucontrol on my computer, period. Since an Arch update (pacman -Syu, etc) update, the Pulseaudio GUI is locked is and useless period, full stop. Input from the command line is a waste of time. Pulse audio does not respond to command line imputs. Pulseaudio does not function. There are no errors in what I typed, so let me say it again:

Since an Arch update (pacman -Syu, etc) update, the Pulseaudio GUI is locked and useless since one of the updates, period, full stop. Input from the command line is a waste of time. Pulse audio does not respond to command line imputs. Pulseaudio does not function.

V1del wrote:

...
Addendum: If this problem initially surfaced because your cards (HDMI and internal) boot order where switched, this isn't because of pulseaudio, this is in fact because of the kernel/udev/alsa not defining a set order by default, which can and will happen with ALSA too, look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ad … sound_card (you don't need to do this if you use pulseaudio and explicitly set a correct default as outlined above, it wouldn't hurt anyway, especially if you intend to only use ALSA)

This sounds promising, but as stated above, since the Arch Linux update, I have no control over Pulseaudio (zero control, zip, zero, nada, nyet) on my computer, period.
I again thank you for responding. You are a true credit to any forum, and I look forward to your reply.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-08 04:55:17)

V1del · 2015-10-08 07:37:53

Well it did respond to the pacmd commands (and you only mentioned that the gui shows the streams as muted which doesn't imply that you absolutely can't interact with it, HDMI based streams are going to be muted if you have nothing to play them with) so I assumed it was technically running and working correctly, what could be is that some of the additional module packages are missing

pacman -Qs pulseaudio

to find out. Usual candidates which are needed by a few things are

pulseaudio-equalizer
pulseaudio-gconf

that split came with pulseaudio 6.0 in the arch packages so that's quite some time ago. if that didn't work (make sure to reboot your computer or restart pulseaudio after installing those packages) try the following, run as your normal user

systemctl --user mask pulseaudio.socket #Pulseaudio is auto activated by DBus requests now, so you'll have to mask the socket in order to inhibit it from being spawned by applications
pulseaudio -k
pulseaudio -vvv

and post the output, if there really are actual problems with pulseaudio initialization something should be in there. Another thing, is your main user literally called localuser01? if not it could be that it somehow reserves pulseaudio because it is started before your actual login, so that might be a thing to investigate. Have you done any changes to your /etc/pulse/default.pa or /etc/pulse/daemon.conf files? If so, might not hurt to post them as well.

PS: It's kind of moot at this point, but next time you suspect an update to be the cause of trouble it would be helpful to attach the affected portion of packages from which the issue apeared from pacman's log: /var/log/pacman.log

Thanks for the kind words, I try my best to help out on topics I know about

Last edited by V1del (2015-10-08 14:47:57)

zahn01 · 2015-10-09 03:31:06

Videl, thanks again for your response. I simply do not have the time tonight, so I will have to post all outputs tomorrow, certainly on Saturday. For now, I've removed all pulse related everything, deleting anything pulse in /etc. We'll try again, sans AUR stuff. I don't recall using the AUR, yet another possible problem.

The following is not directed at you as a person. I appreciate you and your help heretofore. However, I want the public to know two things: 1) Arch was once a distro I used for years. fast and efficient, it taught me 70% of everything that I've known about computers such as filesystems, raid10 and luks. Arch Linux made freebsd possible for me to include zfs, geli gestripe and gmirror. Now...well, it's popularity has been falling at distrowatch, and I see why. 2) I also want the public to know how many hours (OVER A PERIOD of DAYS) have been WASTED doing nothing but attempting to make sound work on a Linux distro (this distro) from 2015. To put it gently, this is an embarrassment to the Linux community, and were I to express my feelings via, radio, the FCC would be more than greatly perturbed.

As I said before, thanks for your help patience and diplomacy, and I shall respond and post outputs per your request no later than Sunday morning.

V1del · 2015-10-09 07:34:15

Sorry if I'm going to be a bit blunt here, but please refrain from Ranting, it's not helping anyone and deters from finding an actual solution. Arch Linux's popularity doesn't really mean anything to anyone happily using it, and the issue you are experiencing is one of configuration that has nothing to do with Arch per se apart from it not holding your hand and a certain expectancy that you can find your own solutions. I suggest you read the Arch Linux Principles to find what Arch is and isn't trying to be. If you want stuff do be automated and "just work TM" you might be better off with another distribution

As said pulseaudio/sound on Arch in general works just fine for me and many others so your own experiences are not going to be a conclusive view on the state of the whole distribution

Last edited by V1del (2015-10-09 07:38:38)

zahn01 · 2015-10-12 06:39:04

Thanks again for responding. Since we last communicated, I've: removed pulseaudio pulseaudio-equalizer, pulseaudio-gconf, pavucontrol; performed a system update and then restarted. Afterwards, I reinstalledled everything. Things now move in the pavucontrol window when media is played. However, everything goes to HDMI now. I STILL cannot hear anything.

V1del wrote:

...Usual candidates which are needed by a few things are
pulseaudio-equalizer
pulseaudio-gconf
that split came with pulseaudio 6.0 in the arch packages so that's quite some time ago. if that didn't work (make sure to reboot your computer or restart pulseaudio after installing those packages) try the following, run as your normal user
systemctl --user mask pulseaudio.socket #Pulseaudio is auto activated by DBus requests now, so you'll have to mask the socket in order to inhibit it from being spawned by applications
pulseaudio -k
pulseaudio -vvv
and post the output, if there really are actual problems with pulseaudio initialization something should be in there. Another thing, is your main user literally called localuser01? if not it could be that it somehow reserves pulseaudio because it is started before your actual login, so that might be a thing to investigate. Have you done any changes to your /etc/pulse/default.pa or /etc/pulse/daemon.conf files? If so, might not hurt to post them as well.
PS: It's kind of moot at this point, but next time you suspect an update to be the cause of trouble it would be helpful to attach the affected portion of packages from which the issue apeared from pacman's log: /var/log/pacman.log
Thanks for the kind words, I try my best to help out on topics I know about

I followed the
systemctl --user mask pulseaudio.socket #Pulseaudio is auto activated by DBus requests now, so you'll have to mask the socket in order to inhibit it from being spawned by applications
pulseaudio -k
pulseaudio -vvv

Output is as follows:

I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted 
D: [pulseaudio] core-rtclock.c: Timer slack is set to 50 us. 
D: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: RealtimeKit worked. 
I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 7.0 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Compilation host: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Compilation CFLAGS: -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-prote
ctor-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wall -W -Wextra -Wno-long-long -Wno-overlength-strings -W
unsafe-loop-optimizations -Wundef -Wformat=2 -Wlogical-op -Wsign-compare -Wformat-security -Wmis
sing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral -Wpointer-arith -Winit-self -Wdeclaration-after-statement 
-Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-noreturn -
Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wcast-align -Wstrict-aliasing -Wwrite-strings -Wno-unused-parameter -ffa
st-math -fno-common -fdiagnostics-show-option -fdiagnostics-color=auto 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running on host: Linux x86_64 4.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Sep 29 22:
21:33 CEST 2015 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Found 2 CPUs. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Compiled with Valgrind support: no 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in valgrind mode: no 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in VM: no 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: Optimized build: yes 
D: [pulseaudio] main.c: FASTPATH defined, only fast path asserts disabled. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is . 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is c1. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1001/pulse. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/mikida01/.config/pulse. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib/pulse-7.0/modules. 
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no 
E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. 
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.

V1del wrote:

PS: It's kind of moot at this point, but next time you suspect an update to be the cause of trouble it would be helpful to attach the affected portion of packages from which the issue apeared from pacman's log: /var/log/pacman.log

I think this means a copy and paste of the most recent updates by date, especially the date problem occurred.

I took time to cool off. I agree with your statement in which you said that not all Arch users will have my negative experiences with pulseaudio. However, it is impossible for reasonable person to not conclude that some have had my negative experiences with pulsaudio. Once this is solved, I'll have to make this thread more succint.

In conclusion, after an update and a reinstall of pulseaudio, pavucontrol pulseaudio-equalizer, pulseaudio-gconf , I have the ability to move things in pavucontrol, but HDMI is the default. That means that speakers/headphones do not work.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-12 06:41:18)

V1del · 2015-10-12 07:34:01

You should be able to change the fallback (default) device in the Output Devices tab to the other card that isn't HDMI, and if necessary move individual streams on the appropriate output/input sources tab to the other card, that doesn't work?

zahn01 · 2015-10-13 00:52:05

V1del wrote:

You should be able to change the fallback (default) device in the Output Devices tab to the other card that isn't HDMI, and if necessary move individual streams on the appropriate output/input sources tab to the other card, that doesn't work?

Absolutely not.were that the case, this post would've been marked solved hours ago. Nothing pulseaudio related on this computer makes sense or functions properly. The problem is not the card nor the hardware because pulseaudio once functioned on this computer, and no other distro has had a problem with this test computer, not even freebsd. I do not have the kind of control over pulseaudio or pavucontrol of which you speak, period. Nothing happens, period. I even tried random stuff on a whim because intelligence did not work. I never changed permisions for sound related files and directories because as I've stated, I do not care about sound unless it's not working. It's just sound. Yes, I am an audiophile, nothing less than flac.
Thanks for sticking with me, and I appreciate not sensing foum politics.

zahn01 · 2015-10-13 02:42:24

Just to clarify

To clarify: On my computer, Pulseaudio and Pavucontrol function as a 'for profit proprietary program', in which one pays separately for HDMI and standard sound. Based on the way pulse audio is functioning on my computer, and under the condition that we say Pulseaudio and Pavucontrol are proprietary programs, well then I have paid for HDMI access, but I have not paid for access to sound from headphones/speaker, hence the lack of control over anything not HDMI related.
Pavucontrol mute in HDMI functions, despite despite the fact that x over the speaker never disappears.

I really hope this helps someone to help me and thereby indirectly help others.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-13 03:49:12)

V1del · 2015-10-13 09:18:07

So let me recap every stream defaults to HDMI and there's no option anywhere to switch to internal? Play something, then post

pacmd list-sink-inputs

if you don't want to wait for me to look at that output try

pacmd move-sink-input $indexofsink-input alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo #If you don't hear sound yet try this next one
pacmd set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo analog-output-speaker

zahn01 · 2015-10-14 06:11:59

Videl, Thanks for responding, but it's either way too late or way too early for me to try anything. I am not giving up. Obviously, I am nothing if not tenacious. Again, a sincere thanks for responding and I'll reply soon, later today, barring an unforeseen calamity. Have a great day, and if I remember my Finnish correctly, 神はあなたに笑顔可能性。 until next I post.

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zahn01 · 2015-10-15 03:54:07

V1del wrote:

...So let me recap every stream defaults to HDMI and there's no option anywhere to switch to internal?...

There are options to switch. They just do not work. Let me say it yet again Pulseaudio/pavucontrol(whatever) does not respond to the command line nor a gui. There is nothing more to understand. It my might as well be a propritary program for which I've only paid for HDMI access. There is nothing more to say or understand. not trying to be blunt, offensive or snippy, but you consistently seem to think that Pulseaudio/pavucontrol is going to respond to the command line or a gui mouse-click. It does not do that. I do not how many of ways to effectively convey this to you.

V1del wrote:

if you don't want to wait for me to look at that output try

pacmd move-sink-input $indexofsink-input alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo #If you don't hear sound yet try this next one
pacmd set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-0000_00_14.2.analog-stereo analog-output-speaker

None of this functions. Think about it. For the above to function, a requesite would be that Pulseaudio/pavucontrol to respond to the command line or a gui, which as stated previously Pulseaudio/pavucontrol(whatever) does not respond to the command line nor a gui. Please do not ask about permissions. I've already said that I do not care about sound unless it doesn't function via Bose, flac or klipsch. Therefore, no mods were done.

V1del wrote:

Play something, then post
pacmd list-sink-inputs

The above functions only because it does not require the programs to alter their behavior. The output of the above command appears immediately below

    index: 11
        driver: <protocol-native.c>
        flags: 
        state: RUNNING
        sink: 0 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_01.1.hdmi-stereo>
        volume: front-left: 64842 /  99% / -0.28 dB,   front-right: 64842 /  99% / -0.28 dB
                balance 0.00
        muted: no
        current latency: 96.19 ms
        requested latency: 210.00 ms
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        resample method: (null)
        module: 9
        client: 20 <MPlayer>
        properties:
                media.name = "06 - Clair de Lune (Debussy) .flac"
                application.name = "MPlayer"
                native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client"
                native-protocol.version = "30"
                media.role = "video"
                application.process.id = "1424"
                application.process.user = "nouser01"
                application.process.host = "erft-1a34-hy5"
                application.process.binary = "mplayer"
                application.language = "C"
                window.x11.display = ":0"
                application.process.machine_id = ""
                application.process.session_id = "c1"
                application.icon_name = "mplayer"
                module-stream-restore.id = "sink-input-by-media-role:video"

Good luck, and I would not blame you for not responding. This is a stupid nightmare with no solution or a simple solution.
Take it easy and thanks for responding.

Last edited by zahn01 (2015-10-15 03:55:05)

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