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#1 2006-04-13 21:35:01

tomk
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Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

I recently built and installed Kazehakase (thanks pressh big_smile ), just for curiosity's sake, and because I felt like having another browser around. I haven't really done any configuration on it yet, so it's pretty much the default install.

Today I was checking some local train times in Firefox, and I got this:

ffoxclip.png

Note the overlapping menu bars. sad I was thinking there might some dumb M$-specific tags in there or something, but I fired up Kazehakase anyway, and I got this:

kazeclip.png

All nice and tidy.

I think I'll be taking a closer look at Kaze now. big_smile

Mind you, if anyone has ideas about getting the display right in Firefox, I'd be interested in those too.

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#2 2006-04-13 22:07:22

Gullible Jones
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Weird, they should display it the same. :?

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#3 2006-04-13 23:02:22

tomk
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Yep, that's what I thought too. It might be worth posting the screenies to wherever a firefox dev might see them, and wait for the response, if any.

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#4 2006-04-14 01:29:08

Snowman
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

tomk wrote:

Mind you, if anyone has ideas about getting the display right in Firefox, I'd be interested in those too.

Posting the site's url would help. wink

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#5 2006-04-14 07:24:22

torindan2
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

http://www.iarnrodeireann.ie/home/
Looks ok with Opera 9.0.20060411

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#6 2006-04-14 07:33:32

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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

firefox ok  :?

konqy looks like your shot above overlaps


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#7 2006-04-14 07:58:36

pressh
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

I tried it with kazehakase, epiphany and opera b9. From these only kazehakase did dispay it correctly. Though epiphany did display it a bit better compared to your firefox.
AFAIK the xulrunner version in repos should be the same code as the firefox engine, so I don't quite get it why they have different results. More bizar is that both kazehakase and epiphany using the same xulrunner give different results.

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#8 2006-04-14 15:09:49

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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

I love horrible code. :evil:


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#9 2006-04-14 15:40:00

dmartinsca
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

how does it do on the acid 2 test?
http://webstandards.org/action/acid2/

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#10 2006-04-14 15:49:31

Gullible Jones
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Firefox doesn't pass the test, though I have heard said test criticized for being "unrealistic".

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#11 2006-04-14 16:16:18

Chman
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Gullible Jones wrote:

Firefox doesn't pass the test, though I have heard said test criticized for being "unrealistic".

Well, the test doesn't respect strict standards, it has some volontary errors to check if browsers can handle ugly code... I don't see the point of this test, they should build a complete webpage with advanced css features, not making a useless smiley :?

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#12 2006-04-14 16:43:11

tomk
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Kaze doesn't pass that test either, btw - the result is not quite the same as Firefox, but still wrong.

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#13 2006-04-14 17:39:24

Snowman
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

opera did much better that firefox on the acid test. However, it still got it wrong.

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#14 2006-04-14 20:22:32

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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

I checked with firefox + NOscript and found the lower menu bar is only visible when scripts are allowed, so the problems might be java related.
(the bars looked fine on my firefox)


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#15 2006-04-14 20:41:39

Gullible Jones
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

You mean javascript, or Java?

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#16 2006-04-14 20:55:15

ozar
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

The gray bar is totally obscured by the orange one in my firefox.  I'm guessing crap coding is more the case rather than crap browser.


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#17 2006-04-14 23:05:40

lumiwa
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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Firefox, SeamOnkey don't passed the test but Konqueror shows correct.

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#18 2006-04-15 15:40:39

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Re: Firefox wrong, Kazehakase right

Snowman wrote:

opera did much better that firefox on the acid test. However, it still got it wrong.

opera b9 from build 225 passes the test

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