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hayer44

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Registered: 2015-10-26

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Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

Hello. I have some problems with my arch. I installed it on my laptop(dell vostro 5470) two years ago. It worked fine about one year. But once it didn't suspend. And now it randomly doesn't suspend. I have the same problems with shutting it down. The problem looks like: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=203161 , but solution of topic starter doesn't work for me. It is hard to isolate problem, because sometimes it works fine, especially after booting. But if I use it for several hours it may probably fail to suspend. Laptop blacks display, but coolers are still working. So I have to hardly reset it.

I don't understand how to get logs when it fails to suspend.

I have tried to switch to LTS kernel, to remove Network Manager, to disable laptop mode tools, but I still have this problem.

I don't know which logs may be useful.

Thanks!

jasonwryan

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Registered: 2009-05-09

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Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

Read your journal. Not a Sysadmin issue, moving to NC...

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Zucca

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From: KUUSANKOSKI, Finland

Registered: 2009-02-26

Posts: 135

Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

I have had these kinds of problems. But those wanished. I never knew what caused them.
LightDM (topic) might be one of the things that causes the problems.

Worst thing with these kind of freezes is that (back then) if the computer affected by the problem was in locked state, and you couldn't access to it remotely and needed to hard reset it --> journal was corrupted. Sometimes journald just didn't have any lines indicating any problems.

Anyway as with my case, some package with close integration with systemd, or systemd itself, caused this in my PC. I'd maybe try to see if you could update systemd or downgrade it. But maybe first... Do you have LightDM as your display manager?

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hayer44

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Registered: 2015-10-26

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Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

I have had these kinds of problems. But those wanished. I never knew what caused them.
LightDM (topic) might be one of the things that causes the problems.

Worst thing with these kind of freezes is that (back then) if the computer affected by the problem was in locked state, and you couldn't access to it remotely and needed to hard reset it --> journal was corrupted. Sometimes journald just didn't have any lines indicating any problems.

Anyway as with my case, some package with close integration with systemd, or systemd itself, caused this in my PC. I'd maybe try to see if you could update systemd or downgrade it. But maybe first... Do you have LightDM as your display manager?

Journal seems to be corrupted when something goes wrong in this way. I have XFCE.

Zucca

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From: KUUSANKOSKI, Finland

Registered: 2009-02-26

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Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

Journal seems to be corrupted when something goes wrong in this way. I have XFCE.

Yeah. I know the feeling trying to find the problem bildfolded. Let's try anyway.

But I didn't ask for your desktop environment. I asked which display manager / login manager do you use.

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hayer44

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Registered: 2015-10-26

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Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

I have had these kinds of problems. But those wanished. I never knew what caused them.
LightDM (topic) might be one of the things that causes the problems.

Worst thing with these kind of freezes is that (back then) if the computer affected by the problem was in locked state, and you couldn't access to it remotely and needed to hard reset it --> journal was corrupted. Sometimes journald just didn't have any lines indicating any problems.

Anyway as with my case, some package with close integration with systemd, or systemd itself, caused this in my PC. I'd maybe try to see if you could update systemd or downgrade it. But maybe first... Do you have LightDM as your display manager?

Oh, I don't use any DM, I just start xfce in my ~/.bash_profile.

Roken

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From: South Wales, UK

Registered: 2012-01-16

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Re: Yet another arch system not shutting down(suspend, reboot)

I had this exact problem last night. This morning, no issue. Last night, Natron had bombed on me, this morning, it hadn't. Last night, me external USB enclosure (HD) was slightly off on the cable, today it isn't. It's almost certainly something simple. You just have check for dead S/W or dodgy H/W, and it doesn;t take long to find a hung program or non-responsive hardware.

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