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#1 2015-12-10 08:22:19

zerophase
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[SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling a couple of aur packages, so they'd use the new ABI.  But, even after a complete removal and reinstall, the script for finding packages using the old ABI still lists them.

#!/bin/bash

while read pkg; do
    mapfile -t files < <(pacman -Qlq $pkg | grep -v /$)
    grep -Fq libstdc++.so.6 "${files[@]}" 2>/dev/null && echo $pkg
done < <(pacman -Qmq)

Do I just have to wait for package maintainers to update the related files?

Last edited by zerophase (2015-12-11 20:01:20)

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#2 2015-12-10 08:38:16

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Reinstalling as in you rebuilt them from source code or you reinstalled the same package or are those bin packages? If any of the latter two this isn't a surprise

See Allan's post

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#3 2015-12-10 08:48:27

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

The script will always list them...   the libstdc++.so.6 library has a dual ABI.

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#4 2015-12-10 08:56:46

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Allan wrote:

The script will always list them...   the libstdc++.so.6 library has a dual ABI.

Alright, so if they're rebuilt they'll use the new ABI, but still show up?

V1del wrote:

Reinstalling as in you rebuilt them from source code or you reinstalled the same package or are those bin packages? If any of the latter two this isn't a surprise

I reinstalled using the same package. Do I need to download them from the aur, and just manually build each package? Is there an option I need to append make with to use the new ABI?

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#5 2015-12-10 09:22:42

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

The new ABI is the default.  You will need to rebuild the package to use it.

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#6 2015-12-10 15:13:38

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Allan wrote:

The new ABI is the default.  You will need to rebuild the package to use it.

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but to reinstall those packages from AUR is the same thing as to rebuild them?

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#7 2015-12-10 15:16:13

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Rebuilding them means running makepkg and making a new package.

"Reinstalling" is ambiguous, as you could just be reinstalling an old build with pacman -U.


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#8 2015-12-10 15:25:26

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Thanks for the reply.
I "reinstalled" them using yaourt -S package, which use the AUR repository. According to the wiki, "AUR contains package descriptions (PKGBUILDs) that allow you to compile a package from source with makepkg and then installs them via pacman".

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#9 2015-12-10 15:37:32

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Which rebuilds them usually, but depending on how you configured it it might just install a previously built package again, however the difference should be rather apparent. (Simply spoken: Did you see a shitton of text before it asked to install the finished package? that likely means you rebuilt it as well)

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#10 2015-12-10 15:46:43

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

If you don't know the difference between building a package and installing one, you shouldn't be using helpers like yaourt which blur the lines between the two..


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#11 2015-12-10 15:52:02

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

and the AUR binary (buildless) packages? like a jdk, wps, etc?

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#12 2015-12-10 16:08:02

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

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#13 2015-12-10 16:50:53

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

After what?

The old ABI is still there, any precompiled packages using the old ABI will continue to use that.


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#14 2015-12-10 17:10:19

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

This is very hard to normal user.


So, i cant rebuid aur package use new ABI, if package uses precompiled packages.
only original precompiled package maintainer can do.

If i remove aur packages and reinstall and packages still uses old ABI , can do nothing.

Last edited by pekka (2015-12-10 17:13:22)

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#15 2015-12-10 17:12:56

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Right. Any of those that also link to libraries with the new ABI will be a problem.

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#16 2015-12-10 18:06:22

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Here, the script doesn't work. It processes 2 packages, then exits ?!

$ pacman -Qmq|wc -l
69
$ bash -x a.sh
+a.sh:3:main: read pkg
++a.sh:7:main: pacman -Qmq
+a.sh:4:main: echo == adbextractor ==
== adbextractor ==
+a.sh:5:main: mapfile -t files
++a.sh:5:main: grep -v '/$'
++a.sh:5:main: pacman -Qlq adbextractor
+a.sh:6:main: grep -Fq libstdc++.so.6 /usr/bin/abe /usr/bin/adb-split.sh /usr/share/adbextractor/LICENSE /usr/share/adbextractor/README.TXT /usr/share/adbextractor/abe.jar /usr/share/adbextractor/perl/backupdecrypt.pl /usr/share/adbextractor/perl/backupencrypt.pl /usr/share/adbextractor/perl/tarfix.pl
+a.sh:3:main: read pkg
+a.sh:4:main: echo == akonadi-fake ==
== akonadi-fake ==
+a.sh:5:main: mapfile -t files
++a.sh:5:main: pacman -Qlq akonadi-fake
++a.sh:5:main: grep -v '/$'
+a.sh:6:main: grep -Fq libstdc++.so.6
+a.sh:3:main: read pkg

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#17 2015-12-10 18:12:36

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

hamelg, what script are you running?

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#18 2015-12-10 18:15:51

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

#!/bin/bash

while read pkg; do
    echo == $pkg ==
    mapfile -t files < <(pacman -Qlq $pkg | grep -v /$)
    grep -Fq libstdc++.so.6 "${files[@]}" && echo $pkg
done < <(pacman -Qmq)

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https://gist.github.com/foutrelis/12c419c37f472f480195

Last edited by hamelg (2015-12-10 18:18:49)

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#19 2015-12-10 18:23:15

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Ah, it can't handle packages with no files.

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#20 2015-12-10 18:32:15

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

a possible fix :

#!/bin/bash

while read pkg; do
    mapfile -t files < <(pacman -Qlq $pkg | grep -v /$ ; echo)
    grep -Fq libstdc++.so.6 "${files[@]}" 2>/dev/null && echo $pkg
done < <(pacman -Qmq)

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#21 2015-12-10 18:40:16

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

foutrelis fixed the script on the front page.

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#22 2015-12-10 18:49:37

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

The issue has been corrected in the news item.

(grep was consuming the output from the 'pacman -Qmq' command; added <&- which closes grep's stdin file descriptor. While this makes for an unhappy grep when no files are provided as arguments [grep: (standard input): Bad file descriptor], it doesn't matter in this case.)

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#23 2015-12-11 20:00:54

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

Cool, guess I'll just wait for the packages I don't have access to the source code to update.

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#24 2015-12-12 11:02:52

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

The information provided with this script is Newbie unfriendly and got lots of people confused. How about explaining (here https://www.archlinux.org/news/c-abi-change/) that packages will be listed by the script even after they were rebuilt?

I guess there is no easy way to fix this script to only list packages that actually still need to be rebuilt, right?

Last edited by catalin.hritcu (2015-12-12 14:24:54)

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#25 2015-12-12 13:57:56

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Re: [SOLVED]How to Upgrade aur packages to use new C++ ABI?

catalin.hritcu wrote:

The information provided with this script is Newbie unfriendly...

So use it as an opportunity to move beyond being a Newbie.

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