The Official Hello Everyone Thread

ewaller · 2015-12-20 17:53:57

sleepy_cat wrote:

CQ, CQ, this is W9GFO. Is anybody out there?

You used a call sign from Contact? Nice. Carl would be pleased

elrostroimpenetrable · 2015-12-20 22:50:26

Hello, finally Arch is working with LXDE
Awesome!

x33a · 2015-12-21 04:51:52

sleepy_cat wrote:

finally, share a principle as i believed, which is
Keep It Simple and Stupid, e.g. the KISS Principle.

I don't think that's quite what the philosophy says

tom.ty89 · 2015-12-21 04:59:18

What do you think instead? Keep It Sadistic and Sarcastic?

x33a · 2015-12-21 08:59:44

@tom.ty89, it is "Keep it simple, stupid". Though, I like the Sadistic and sarcastic variation as well

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sriley081 · 2015-12-23 03:18:47

cout >> "Hello World!"

I got arch working on an i7 NUC w/ 16GB RAM and a 256GB 950 Pro (M.2). Took me six passes before it would boot, but I finally got it.

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olegabrielz · 2015-12-23 12:51:11

Hi there

I'm relatively new to linux. I did try to check out some linux distros back in 2005-2006 but I did not have the time (or knowledge) to jump OS. If I remember correctly it wasn't until 2013 I gave it another shot. From that moment it took about 6 months before me myself and my private computers said "bye bye" to microsoft.
And as time went by I started noticing when I fixed different soft- and hardware issues often ended up fixing it with info found on the arch wiki. Naturally that made me curious. But for a newbie like me, it seemed to be too much to learn just to get it up and running. And the limited knowledge I had was basically from the debian-branch. A year ago I did manage to put Arch successfully into one of my laptops for the first time. And I have been using Arch ever since.
I have no degree or work experience with computers. But computers are extremely fascinating and fun (and sometimes a real pain in da butt). And that is why it has become a small but great hobby of mine.

Have a nice Christmas everyone!

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2015-12-23 14:08:03

Hello again olegabrielz, wecome to Arch!

Happy Christmas to you too

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olegabrielz · 2015-12-23 21:07:42

Thank you Head_on_a_Stick

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clonemaki · 2015-12-24 04:18:03

Hello! I installed Arch last week. I've been hopping around several (mostly Ubuntu-based) distros and I have to say I'm loving Arch! Probably my favorite distro so far, I'm really learning a lot.

Happy holidays to everyone!

Iyyel · 2015-12-25 06:59:30

Here goes my 'hello' as well!

Hello everyone!

I've got about 1 year of Linux experience, consisting mostly of distribution hopping, installations and maintenance of debian and ubuntu based systems. For the last 6 months I've been using OS X on my (first) ever Macbook, the experience is okay, but I can't get myself not to use a full blown Linux system, which is why I am here, to manage to install arch onto this laptop with the help of this community.

I'm a software developer/programmer as well, starting my Software Engineering degree next year, which makes me want to learn a lot more about Linux as well, and I generally find it a lot more comfortable to code in a Linux environment.

That's a little about me. Hope to see some of you guys around here.

Take care!

aminebaloo_t · 2015-12-25 21:13:30

Hello guys,

I've been using Linux since 2009 (when I start my studies), my distros was : Ubuntu and Mint(Client side), and Debian CentOS(Server) , recently having had problems with my desktop I decided to install Arch Linux. So I use Arch Linux since 3 month and I feel pretty comfortable with this distro, and pacman was a great discovery.

In everyday life, I'm a system administrator in a teleco company the main part of my job is to maintain Unix/Linux servers and also a part of the backup storage & archiving team.

Bye.

nmiculinic · 2015-12-26 11:22:20

Hey all

I've been using linux since 2012ish when I was in high school. During that time I've been into competitive programming and other people transitioned to linux. Likewise I did too and found many thing more natural/easier there. I even gave vim a shot, learning few basic commands, though I'm still opting for atom/IDE/Jupyter when doing more serious work. I first started with ubuntu, then transitioned to Mint in last few years.

And now I'm interested in trying arch. Every time I google for something, I find useful arch wiki post explaining how to do things (recent example I've switched to btrfs and I love it!).

In everyday life I'm computer science student, still learning new tips & tricks .

Happy holidays to everyone!

Zouti · 2015-12-27 01:55:06

I'm starting 2016 with Arch!

I have on many occasions come close to installing Arch, replacing my current Debian testing setup. I read about it all the time, all the great reviews about it being for the brave at heart. Frequently, I would lose myself in the beauty of the Wiki, not because it is difficult to understand but because of how intricate and thorough it is. What additionally made me realize the awesomeness of Arch is that; Arch is not the "Everyone knows about, popular" kind of Linux distro though it might be, but that most google searches top hits are the Arch forums when looking for help. Although I'm still much of a Linux amateur, I'm ready to dive it.

ewaller · 2015-12-27 02:06:07

Zouti wrote:

I'm starting 2016 with Arch!
I have on many occasions come close to installing Arch, replacing my current Debian testing setup. I read about it all the time, all the great reviews about it being for the brave at heart. Frequently, I would lose myself in the beauty of the Wiki, not because it is difficult to understand but because of how intricate and thorough it is. What additionally made me realize the awesomeness of Arch is that; Arch is not the "Everyone knows about, popular" kind of Linux distro though it might be, but that most google searches top hits are the Arch forums when looking for help. Although I'm still much of a Linux amateur, I'm ready to dive it.

You'll do fine. All we ask is that you read the documentation before seeking help and that you bring some level of competency. As I said, you'll do fine

quasiholomorph · 2015-12-28 16:48:39

Hello Arch Linux community,

I’m a mathematician and linux user for some twenty years or so. Linux and I always had a difficult relationship, admittedly caused by my infidelity, some other computing systems with low maintenance and beautiful design were just too tempting. More recently Linux and I arranged to have an open relationship, forbidden fruits are primarily consumed on the go whereas our home is built on solid arches.

I would like to take the opportunity to thank everyone investing time and energy to keep this forums so helpful.

Best wishes,

quasiholomorph

x33a · 2015-12-29 12:22:51

quasiholomorph wrote:

some other computing systems with low maintenance and beautiful design were just too tempting.

Let me guess, Mac OS (X)?

Anyway, welcome to the forums.

drcouzelis · 2015-12-29 13:30:03

x33a wrote:

quasiholomorph wrote:
some other computing systems with low maintenance and beautiful design were just too tempting.
Let me guess, Mac OS (X)?

CDE I'm sure.

boydster · 2015-12-30 02:11:11

So I just made the dive into Arch, coming from mostly an Ubuntu background (most recently Ubuntu MATE). Tried it first in VirtualBox just to get familiar with the install process and now it's running my laptop. I'm very happy with the results, especially how lightweight it is on my old hardware. Just wanted to say hello and thanks to all the devs that have put their work into this OS!

Piexes · 2015-12-30 05:34:26

Hey guys, I'm a student / android dev with a general fascination in computer science. After spending a sufficient amount of time on /g/ I figured it'd be time to install Arch. I just got it working today, admittently with a few bugs needing to still be kinked. I'm looking forward to playing ball with arch in the future, and to eventually use it as my daily driver.

mitchk · 2015-12-30 13:50:25

Hi all,

I have been a user of Ubuntu Linux installations but I don't pretend to be an expert in any way in Linux. About 2 weeks ago I installed Arch Linux without a whole lot of pain. My aim with this Linux system is to use it primarily for music applications. Over the past 2 weeks I have successfully installed an XFCE based window system with real-time Kernel and have optimized settings within the system to achieve pretty low latencies even on a fairly old ASUS machine.

I am now in the process of installing music applications and have already installed applications such as JACK, Cadence and Supercollider (from AUR). Now there are some music applications that I would like to install that are not on the standard package list or AUR but typically have build instructions from source for Ubuntu but no PKGBUILD instructions. I would like to install the ChucK Music Programming language with MiniAudicle. Chuck is on the standard package list (recently) but MiniAudicle is not. There are several other applications like this as well. Is there a simple standard way of building from source without PKGBUILD files. I've searched around and have come across ABS. Is this what I need to use?

If there are others out there that have interest in music applications on Arch or others please shout out. Also if there are active groups in Arch Linux audio it would great to hear about these.

I hope everyone has a great New Year wherever you may be...

Regards,
Mitch

ewaller · 2015-12-30 15:04:36

mitchk wrote:

Is there a simple standard way of building from source without PKGBUILD files. I've searched around and have come across ABS. Is this what I need to use?

Welcome to Arch Linux. I see you've been studying Arch -- terrific. You are mixing apples and oranges a bit here. In Arch, packages are built using makepkg. A PKGBUILD is a structured script that tells makepkg where to find the source code, how to patch it, how to compile it, and how to deploy it. The output of makepkg is a package Then, pacman is used to read those packages, copy them into the file system, keep track of those files, guard against conflicts, allows for and processes updates, and (when the program is no longer desired) remove those files from the system and the database that tracks them.

The ABS incorporates all that have I mentioned, and also includes utilities for acquiring the PKGBUILD and ancillary files to build any package in our repositories. This is where you would start if you wanted to compile, patch, modify packages in core, extra, or community. The AUR uses the same tools for compiling packages, but the PKGBUILDs and ancillary files are acquired from the AUR instead. The other major difference is that there are no (official) repositories for AUR packages, whereas ABS packages are prebuilt for you and live in the repositories.

As to your question. It is unclear whether you are asking how to build the source without using PKGBUILD files; or whether you are asking how to build source that do not yet have PKGBUILD files.

If you want to not use makepkg, you can always use make to build a local copy in your build directory. You can use sudo make install (not recommended) to install the programs, but this can create conflicts that pacman may not be able to resolve at which point it is up to you to fix.

If you are trying to compile a package that does not yet have a PKGBUILD, you can always write one yourself (not difficult) or you request that someone create one for you on these forums under the AUR Issues, Discussion, and PKGBUILD Requests subforum.

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Trilby · 2015-12-30 15:14:57

ewaller wrote:

If you are trying to compile a package that does not yet have a PKGBUILD, you can always write one yourself (not difficult) or you request that someone create one for you on these forums under the AUR Issues, Discussion, and PKGBUILD Requests subforum.

Repeating, and bold added, for emphasis.

If there are build instructions that work - often something like a configure, make, make install series of commands, then it is absolutely trivially easy to put these commands into a PKGBUILD. I remember being very intimidated by PKGBUILDs when I started with arch: primarily because I hadn't bothered to just look at one and read the wiki page (or maybe I had looked at very complex ones only). But again, if you can build and install the software with any series of commands, then those commands can be put in a PKGBUILD.

Sometimes getting a PKGBUILD to work can be very tricky. But in these cases they are for poorly deployed software that would be at least as difficult (and perhaps more) to build without the PKGBUILD.

mitchk · 2015-12-30 16:37:00

ewaller, Trilby:

Thanks very much for your detailed responses. Just for clarity I was asking how to build source that do not yet have PKGBUILD files. I was able to build the miniaudicle package from source using make and make install with no problem at all on an Ubuntu system previously so it would seem to be well documented. I will give it a shot. It couldn't hurt my system too much, could it?

Again, thanks for the responses.

Regards,
Mitch

ewaller · 2015-12-30 17:09:48

mitchk wrote:

I was able to build the miniaudicle package from source using make and make install with no problem at all on an Ubuntu system previously so it would seem to be well documented. I will give it a shot. It couldn't hurt my system too much, could it?

The big issues will be:

make install could silently overwrite files that already exist in the file system breaking things which won't reveal themselves until later when you are no longer thinking about miniaudicle.
make install could install files that, at some future time, need to be written by pacman to install some other package. This will cause pacman to fail.
Those files could be forgotten and could live forever in your file system.

Regardless, welcome to Arch Linux. Let's not turn this hello thread into a support thread. If this needs more attention, then we should probably start a new thread (or join an existing thread) in an appropriate sub forum.

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