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#1 2015-12-30 09:18:22

poseidon
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Registered: 2012-06-07
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Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

I should have remembered the move from 3.5 to 4... Anyway, I did it, I "upgraded" from KDE4 to KDE5. But now, there are some issues and I hope someone can give me hints how to overcome them.

KWallet: 3 windows now open asking me for passwords. KWallet on KDE4 opened 1 password window. The now 3 windows are all labelled "KWallet Migration Assistant". Ok, I'm forced to mess around with KWalletManager: I understand that under "Applications" it reads that kwalletmanager5 is connected to this wallet. But what the heck is kded5? Button Help didn't help...

KScreen: Doesn't recognize 2nd screen (Intel Graphics). Using xrandr. Issuing just "xrandr" makes KScreen to recognize the 2nd screen. (Why didn't they just build upon KRandRTray? Worked like a charm for years.) But KScreen (or xrandr?) seems to have caused the panel mess:

Panels: I created a panel on the left hand side. After adding the 2nd screen, the panel has moved to the 2nd screen! Why is this? Heck, can't move it back to the 1st one. After switching off the 2nd screen, no panel anymore. Switch on the 2nd screen again, panel is on the 2nd screen, can't move it back to the 1st one... 1st screen doesn't seem to be recognized as primary one. Can't say if this panel mess has been caused by KScreen or xrandr, though. Anyway, I removed the panel and try to stick with the Launcher Favourites. But how can I add links to plain files there?

Caffeine (inhibits screen locking when presenting): Doesn't work anymore. Does anyone know about a replacement?


Any recommendations for a frustrated KDE5 user, which DE he should migrate to? Does any former KDE user have experience with LXQT already? Seems to be flexible enough, doesn't it?

Paul

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#2 2015-12-30 15:22:22

poseidon
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

poseidon wrote:

KWallet: 3 windows now open asking me for passwords. KWallet on KDE4 opened 1 password window. The now 3 windows are all labelled "KWallet Migration Assistant". Ok, I'm forced to mess around with KWalletManager: I understand that under "Applications" it reads that kwalletmanager5 is connected to this wallet. But what the heck is kded5? Button Help didn't help...

KScreen: Doesn't

Found an answer for this in https://nwrickert2.wordpress.com/2015/1 … kdewallet/

So, addded the section

[Migration]
alreadyMigrated=true

in kwalletrc. Behaviour now as expected again.

Paul

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#3 2015-12-30 17:59:23

Loose_Control
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

Regarding Caffeine the battery applet has a checkbox for disabling power management maybe that helps?

Try a new user for your Screen problem maybe it is some wrong configuration if it still doesn't work with a new user i would report a bug or ask on IRC.
Btw Qt could also be the cause of this problem there were some serious screen management bugs in it...

Last edited by Loose_Control (2015-12-30 18:02:20)

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#4 2016-01-04 08:54:59

poseidon
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

Loose_Control wrote:

Regarding Caffeine the battery applet has a checkbox for disabling power management maybe that helps?

Ok, I'll go for that, thank you.

This KScreen thing is driving me mad in the meantime. Now even the default panel is moved to the 2nd screen and never comes back. Each time I close the connection to a 2nd screen I have to add a default panel! WTF have these KDE guys done to KDE? I guess they use GNOME on their desktops :-) BTW: Tried LXQT on an other notebook (which I freshly installed for that): They need another 5 yeas of devel time to come even close to KDE, alas...

Cheers
Paul

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#5 2016-01-04 10:20:15

V1del
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Registered: 2012-10-16
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

The multiscreen issues are likely to be a bug in QT5, which KDE can't do much about (but gets all the blame for since it is QT's most prominent user roll) . From what I hear most of these should be fixed in QT 5.6

Last edited by V1del (2016-01-04 10:22:49)

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#6 2016-01-04 11:07:09

poseidon
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

V1del wrote:

The multiscreen issues are likely to be a bug in QT5, which KDE can't do much about (but gets all the blame for since it is QT's most prominent user roll) . From what I hear most of these should be fixed in QT 5.6

Ok, but can't hold my breath: Managed to remove KScreen

pacman -R plasma-meta
pasman -R kscreen

Hopefully problem solved (no ext monitor available right now). BTW, hadn't removed it, if it didn't not only recognize the 2nd screen but even switched it on _automatically_.

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#7 2016-01-04 12:49:30

poseidon
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Re: Plasma 5 Annoyances after Upgrade: KWallet, KScreen etc. etc.

poseidon wrote:

Hopefully problem solved (no ext monitor available right now). BTW, hadn't removed it, if it didn't not only recognize the 2nd screen but even switched it on _automatically_.

It's not KScreen and thus not KDE: The same happens with xrandr :-(
So, seems waiting for Qt 5.6 ist all we can do...

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