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#1 2016-03-04 07:19:42

arojas
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[kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

It's that time again. See https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.95.php for release notes.

You need to have [testing] enabled. As usual, report packaging issues to bugs.archlinux.org with the [kde-unstable] label, and upstream issues to bugs.kde.org

WARNING: The [kde-unstable] repo also contains Qt 5.6 rc currently, so be prepared for additional breakage.

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#2 2016-03-04 10:11:57

Loose_Control
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

You are right this time there are really quite a few bugs.

Manual session save is broken the k-menu entry doesn't do anything i had to call it using qdbusviewer and it doesn't save firefox for some reason.
My background is literally missing instead there is a the splash screen xD

Closing the session is messed up it takes about 30sec for the session to close.
On shutdown systemd always displays "A stop job is running for User Manager ..." after "[OK] Stopped session c4 of user ..."

Another thing the apps show on the version tab Qt 5.6 but compiled against 5.5.1 is that because of KF5?

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#3 2016-03-04 11:03:52

arojas
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

Loose_Control wrote:

You are right this time there are really quite a few bugs.

Manual session save is broken the k-menu entry doesn't do anything i had to call it using qdbusviewer and it doesn't save firefox for some reason.
My background is literally missing instead there is a the splash screen xD

Closing the session is messed up it takes about 30sec for the session to close.
On shutdown systemd always displays "A stop job is running for User Manager ..." after "[OK] Stopped session c4 of user ..."

Another thing the apps show on the version tab Qt 5.6 but compiled against 5.5.1 is that because of KF5?

This sounds like something is majorly broken on your system. Without any logs it's impossible to know what it is though.

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#4 2016-03-04 11:39:27

miku84
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

I also have the shutdown issue on Plasma 5.5.4, there are posts about this. I may be a systemd 229 issue.

Last edited by miku84 (2016-03-04 11:48:15)

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#5 2016-03-04 12:56:16

Tromzy
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

I don't think the shutdown issues are related to Plasma 5.6 beta. I had them already in 5.5.

Here are a few bugs I encountered so far :

- Sometimes a glitch appears on X (did not try on Wayland) : the right corner of the Plasma panel disappears. It comes back a few seconds later.
- the media player controls plasmoid in systray does not show up when a music or video player is launched and playing a media (tried with VLC, Cantata, Clementine). It says "No media played" even if a media is played.
- the new breeze-grub package is incomplete ? At boot Grub says some elements are missing and shows the old basic Grub screen

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#6 2016-03-04 13:55:43

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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

About shutdown issue - it's not related to Plasma or SDDM. We have many threads on BBS about it with different DM and DE. I's started with systemd 229, so it's possible that it's systemd related.

About Plasma 5.5.95. I've installed both: Qt5.6RC and Plasma 5.5.95, and my desktop is customized by myself (it's very important, because Plasma is very sensitive for bad quality of themes and so on).
Fisrt issue: in my opinion breeze is broken, but it's upstream's bug (because we have got it in breeze-git, too). Windows with Breeze theme frequently crashed and title bar disappears.
Second issue: Show Desktop plasmoid, when we put it on panel it will be disorganized (only Kickoff is visable).
Third issue: widgets related to qtquick.xmllistmodel cannot work anymore (i.e. plasma5-applets-weather-widget cannot connect with service).
Fourth, strange, issue is that some apps (kcalc 15.12) cannot start anymore.
Fifth issue - SDDM start with blank, empty black screen only (in the other thread it's recogized as breeze theme related, too).
Sixth issue - some applications a very long time to starts (i.e. sometime telepathy).
I could send a logs, but help me in this, please (execute kcalc in konsole or even via gdb doesn't get any information).
Sorry, for my English - it's not my native language.

Last edited by pb (2016-03-05 05:45:14)

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#7 2016-03-04 14:00:49

Loose_Control
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

I downgraded and nearly all my issues disappeared (even the shutdown problem) so it is related to Qt 5.6 and Plasma 5.6 Beta.

The only issue not fixed is the wallpaper thing it seems the beta fucked some config files up nice >_>. Changing the wallpaper does nothing i still have the splash screen as the WP.
Deleting the plasma files in .config didn't fix it anyone any idea?

I am definitly staying away from kde-unstable for now something is seriously messed up with Qt 5.6/Plasma 5.6.

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#8 2016-03-04 14:57:01

mcloaked
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

Is there a list of which themes do work (both plasma and sddm)?


Mike C

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#9 2016-03-04 16:29:12

pb
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

And one more issue (I'm sure that it's Qt5.6RC related) - all my webbrowsers build against of qtwebkit crashed frequently. I rebuild qupzilla on Qt5.6 and it's stable so now.
Another one - telepathy-qt (and I think, that it's also problem with Qt5.6RC) - chat window open with blank screen, after a long time, I can see proper window and type something

@arojas - We have a new simplesystray in Plasma 5.5.95. You've not built it. May I ask why? And... what it is: simplesystray at all?

Last edited by pb (2016-03-04 16:32:08)

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#10 2016-03-04 16:34:00

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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

Works for me though I had to uninstall and recompile the redshift plasmoid to get things working. The Show Desktop plasmoid doesn't work any more, corrupting the panel when it is added. If anyone has problems, I would just uninstall all KDE/Plasma5 related stuff and just try reinstalling it...

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#11 2016-03-04 16:35:24

Ravior
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

It seems that the Qt 5.6 update, plasma starts in aproximately 10 minutes. Also, not all components are started correctly. The dmesg looks clean. Also, updating to 5.6 beta, hasn't changed this behaviour.
Does somebody has a potential lead for this? I've tried the sddm theme switch, but that hasn't done anything.

Additional info:
As repositories I'm using kde-unstable with testing. I'm using mesa with nouveau as my video driver.

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#12 2016-03-04 18:03:18

imraro
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

My observations:
1) Very slow start of plasmashell (and some Qt applications), since Qt 5.6-rc0+Plasma 5.5.5, without notable CPU/RAM/IO.
2) No "alien" systemtray icons + no layout indicator icon + not working switching policy (per application)
3)

/build/qt5-webkit/src/qtwebkit-opensource-src-5.6.0/Source/WebCore/loader/FrameLoader.cpp(2982) : void WebCore::FrameLoader::applyUserAgent(WebCore::ResourceRequest&)
1   0x7f5e35b30cb7 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(WTFCrash+0x17) [0x7f5e35b30cb7]
2   0x7f5e33b62994 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9ad994) [0x7f5e33b62994]
3   0x7f5e33ba3ff8 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9eeff8) [0x7f5e33ba3ff8]
4   0x7f5e33ba06c2 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9eb6c2) [0x7f5e33ba06c2]
5   0x7f5e33baec57 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9f9c57) [0x7f5e33baec57]
6   0x7f5e33ba1c55 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9ecc55) [0x7f5e33ba1c55]
7   0x7f5e33bae950 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9f9950) [0x7f5e33bae950]
8   0x7f5e33bad471 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9f8471) [0x7f5e33bad471]
9   0x7f5e33ba81b9 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x9f31b9) [0x7f5e33ba81b9]
10  0x7f5e33b2cc6c /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x977c6c) [0x7f5e33b2cc6c]
11  0x7f5e33b44db6 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x98fdb6) [0x7f5e33b44db6]
12  0x7f5e33b45ab9 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x990ab9) [0x7f5e33b45ab9]
13  0x7f5e339ca975 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x815975) [0x7f5e339ca975]
14  0x7f5e339cd3ab /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x8183ab) [0x7f5e339cd3ab]
15  0x7f5e34ec8a5a /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x1d13a5a) [0x7f5e34ec8a5a]
16  0x7f5e35408e1c /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x2253e1c) [0x7f5e35408e1c]
17  0x7f5e339cb752 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x816752) [0x7f5e339cb752]
18  0x7f5e354d8b93 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x2323b93) [0x7f5e354d8b93]
19  0x7f5e354d8e10 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x2323e10) [0x7f5e354d8e10]
20  0x7f5e354d8ffc /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x2323ffc) [0x7f5e354d8ffc]
21  0x7f5e3511ba60 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x1f66a60) [0x7f5e3511ba60]
22  0x7f5e33ab1c94 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x8fcc94) [0x7f5e33ab1c94]
23  0x7f5e33ae2208 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x92d208) [0x7f5e33ae2208]
24  0x7f5e33ae679c /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x93179c) [0x7f5e33ae679c]
25  0x7f5e33aa7f87 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x8f2f87) [0x7f5e33aa7f87]
26  0x7f5e33aa8cd7 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x8f3cd7) [0x7f5e33aa8cd7]
27  0x7f5e33aa99f2 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x8f49f2) [0x7f5e33aa99f2]
28  0x7f5e354b0d00 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x22fbd00) [0x7f5e354b0d00]
29  0x7f5e33b4b95b /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x99695b) [0x7f5e33b4b95b]
30  0x7f5e336472c6 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x4922c6) [0x7f5e336472c6]
31  0x7f5e33b4d661 /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5(+0x998661) [0x7f5e33b4d661]
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  kontact

on kontact startup
4) kscreen is not working at all
5) no brightness control
6) no suspend/shutdown/reboot from krunner/power management (... oops, just a very slow reaction )

Last edited by imraro (2016-03-04 18:21:45)

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#13 2016-03-04 19:22:53

arojas
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

pb wrote:

Third issue: widgets related to qtquick.xmllistmodel cannot work anymore (i.e. plasma5-applets-weather-widget cannot connect with service).

Fixed in qt5-declarative 5.6.0rc-2

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#14 2016-03-04 22:07:43

willy9
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

On top of the aforementioned issues with sddm I have a strange behaviour with my synaptics touchpad... using two finger scrolls pages blazingly fast, it's not really usable. I tried changing some options but the behaviour stays the same with or without a /etc/X11/xorg.d/50-synaptics.conf. Since it came with 5.6 beta, I assume it comes from it.

Can anyone confirm ?


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#15 2016-03-04 22:17:57

mcloaked
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

willy9 wrote:

On top of the aforementioned issues with sddm I have a strange behaviour with my synaptics touchpad... using two finger scrolls pages blazingly fast, it's not really usable. I tried changing some options but the behaviour stays the same with or without a /etc/X11/xorg.d/50-synaptics.conf. Since it came with 5.6 beta, I assume it comes from it.

Can anyone confirm ?

Does libinput work any better for you instead?


Mike C

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#16 2016-03-04 22:30:22

arojas
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

pepedopolous wrote:

The Show Desktop plasmoid doesn't work any more, corrupting the panel when it is added.

Please report this upstream

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#17 2016-03-04 23:23:57

willy9
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

mcloaked wrote:
willy9 wrote:

On top of the aforementioned issues with sddm I have a strange behaviour with my synaptics touchpad... using two finger scrolls pages blazingly fast, it's not really usable. I tried changing some options but the behaviour stays the same with or without a /etc/X11/xorg.d/50-synaptics.conf. Since it came with 5.6 beta, I assume it comes from it.

Can anyone confirm ?

Does libinput work any better for you instead?

Absolutely, thanks for this, I didn't know about libinput smile


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#18 2016-03-05 08:51:01

nierro
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

I'm seeing the slow loading/closing of plasma session too.
Plus, no media widget is loaded, and neither is working the new feature "media control on taskbar icon hovering" .
Related to taskbar, is there a way to install libunity without all the gtk3 deps?
Last, but not least, shouldn't time and date applet calendar show local holidays?

Btw, i'm very curious about new "simplesystray" too, if anyone has any info available... smile

Last edited by nierro (2016-03-05 08:51:49)

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#19 2016-03-05 09:14:46

pb
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

arojas wrote:
pb wrote:

Third issue: widgets related to qtquick.xmllistmodel cannot work anymore (i.e. plasma5-applets-weather-widget cannot connect with service).

Fixed in qt5-declarative 5.6.0rc-2

Now it works.

And about qtwebkit 5.6 based apps (i.e. qupzilla). I've rebuild QupZilla against of QtWebEngine 5.6RC (qupzilla-git) and it works good. So, frequently crashes of QupZilla after upgrade to kde-unstable is related to Qt5.6RC and qtwebkit in it (QupZilla haven't got any dependiences to KDE of course).

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#20 2016-03-05 09:41:50

arojas
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

nierro wrote:

Plus, no media widget is loaded, and neither is working the new feature "media control on taskbar icon hovering" .

Fixed in plasma-workspace 5.5.95-3

Related to taskbar, is there a way to install libunity without all the gtk3 deps?

Since you seem to have tried it: does libunity add anything else than chromium download progress?

Last, but not least, shouldn't time and date applet calendar show local holidays?

No, it didn't make it on time for 5.6

Btw, i'm very curious about new "simplesystray" too, if anyone has any info available... smile

I wasn't planning on packaging it since it's only a technical preview, but I will think about it since there seems to be so much interest in it.

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#21 2016-03-05 09:43:22

arojas
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

To everybody having slow session startup: please post journal logs (specifying at which time the slowdown happens). Also, is this reproducible if you restart plasmashell from inside the Plasma session?

Last edited by arojas (2016-03-05 09:43:51)

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#22 2016-03-05 09:50:37

AnAkkk
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

Just like before sddm-greeter just crashes for me with Qt 5.6.

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#23 2016-03-05 10:37:03

Ravior
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

arojas wrote:
pepedopolous wrote:

The Show Desktop plasmoid doesn't work any more, corrupting the panel when it is added.

Please report this upstream

pepedopolous, after you've raised this defect, can you please post the link for it? I am affected by this problem as well.

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#24 2016-03-05 10:50:59

nierro
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Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

@arojas: i did not install libunity tongue

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#25 2016-03-05 11:20:53

Demon
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Posts: 246

Re: [kde-unstable] Plasma 5.6 beta

@arojas: There's an issue with WebEngine not being able to open Google sites (possible some other). More info and a patch is here: https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/issues/1870. Please take a look and possibly add the patch to your repo. Thanks in advance!

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