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#1 2006-05-02 10:47:24

sebcactus
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beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Hi,

kernel26beyond 2.6.16.beyond3-1 + ati-fglrx-beyond 8.24.8-1 + xorg 11R7.0-1

The freeze is weird: I can still see the mouse moving, but clicks and keyboards are not responding. I have already experienced this some time ago with archck and ati-firegl-archck but it had been fixed thanks to a new release.

I don't have this problem with the latest archck/ati-firegl-archck kernel nor with the beyond1 kernel (I switched directly form beyond1 to beyond3).

The computer is a P4 with a ATI FireGL X1 card.

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#2 2006-05-02 17:13:20

Blind
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Not that I could give a solution, just for the record, I also have this problem. For me it is slightly different, though. My harddrive LED turns on (continuously) and everything (mouse as well) stops working, i.e. a complete and utter freeze. It happens randomly.
I think it has something to do with my computer, though, because I used different kernels, OSS xorg 7 radeon driver, etc. and I still get these crashes. I have the suspicion it has to do with P4/HT/SMP machines.
Are you using the HT/SMP option?
Cheers,
Blind

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#3 2006-05-02 20:27:27

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Thanks for the record wink

I use the default config of the kernel26beyond:

Linux Seb1-sp 2.6.16-beyond #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 28 23:50:31 EST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Note that I don't have any freeze with the radeon driver. So I think my pb is not exactly the same as yours.
Cheers,
Seb

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#4 2006-05-03 08:16:31

Blind
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Hi,
well, I just wonder if my thoughts are correct. Is your computer using the HyperThreading extension? I am curious...
There is a flag that you can set when compiling the fglrx driver to tell it that it is meant to be for SMP machines. I have posted this in this thread (look at the PKGBUILD):
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=20118&start=0
I was wondering if that improves your situation.
Of course this matters only if you _do_ use HT/SMP.
Cheers,
Blind

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#5 2006-05-03 10:26:35

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

I am testing it right now.

I just wonder why it could improve my situation.

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#6 2006-05-03 10:44:10

Blind
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Because the driver does something different when the flag -D__SMP__ is set? It is just a remote idea of mine. And again: it would only matter, if you DID use HyperThreading on the P4.
Good luck,
Blind

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#7 2006-05-03 11:05:35

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

No hang for the moment.
How do I know if I use hyperthreading?
Thanks
Seb

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#8 2006-05-03 13:11:43

Blind
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

How many CPUs are listed in
/sys/devices/system/cpu/
?
If there is more than one, the kernel has detected 2 CPUs, supposedly because HyperThreading is enabled. Then you are also using it.
Also, there might be a BIOS setting which enables HT.
Cheers,
Blind

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#9 2006-05-03 14:53:33

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Ok I only have one. I will chech the bios next time I have to reboot.

The funny thing though is that my computer has still not hanged smile

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#10 2006-05-03 15:45:01

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

I spoke to quickly. Big hang again (mouse still moving and music still playing though).
So now I changed the bios settings and have the hyperthreading set up.

Hope it won't crash anymore but I doubt it.

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#11 2006-05-04 07:32:41

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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Yeah, I think so, too.
Sorry.
sad
Was just an idea....
Cheers,
Blind

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#12 2006-05-04 10:04:15

sebcactus
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Re: beyond + ati-fglrx-beyond + xorg, machine freezes

Any idea is good to try if you have time wink

Edit: Just to confirm that the computer still hangs with fglrx and kernel26beyond both compiled with pentium4 and HT support.

The radeon driver works fine.

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