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#1 2006-04-08 04:48:40

mindtriggerz
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[IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

I know I'm going to get flac for this but here goes...
Pry is a replacement for Pacman written in Ruby.
I'll let the marketing-speak tell the rest: http://pry.rubyforge.org/

--Jesse (FlashHater on IRC)


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#2 2006-04-08 05:40:36

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Learn Ruby. Pry is mainly a tool for me to dive in to Ruby

Currently I am doing same by learning Ruby+Glade by developing a GUI package information application for Pacman. Got the idea from Ubuntu's gnome-apps-installer (Python+Glade).

In general its no different from the other GUI pacman developed by others. I want to include an additional application category, detailed description and mini screenshot for each package, similar information as in freshmeat.net

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#3 2006-05-07 05:34:08

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

cool. I will have to snag the code and take a look mindtrigger.


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#4 2006-05-07 07:12:39

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Thank goodness someone has looked at it.
I have implemented basic search and regex search and database serialization, and it's up to 60x faster at searching than pacman


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#5 2006-05-07 11:42:50

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

my ideas:
- support for mirrors: like I enter 5 urls to extra repo -> pry would fetch info from each of them and then made a list what package is where sorting urls for package by speed (average download speed od the repo info).
- search and download directories with pkgbuilds...

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#6 2006-05-07 13:17:25

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

mindtriggerz wrote:

I know I'm going to get flac for this but here goes...
Pry is a replacement for Pacman written in Ruby.
I'll let the marketing-speak tell the rest: http://pry.rubyforge.org/

--Jesse (FlashHater on IRC)

I think this a fine idea. I had hoped that someone would do something similar in Python with Xerxes2's libpypac.

The advantage of using high level languages like Python and Ruby is that you can experiment a lot more rapidly with different ways of achieving the same goal, like package searching, or trying to integrate a DB backend rather than the zillion flat file approach.

I may have to jump aboard on this project as a way of getting in to Ruby.

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#7 2006-05-07 13:52:44

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

/me enters the room


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#8 2006-05-07 14:40:02

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

60x faster?! Email Judd. Now. big_smile

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#9 2006-05-07 16:08:31

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

I downloaded it as well and will be looking through it later this week.  Looks interesting so far!

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#10 2006-05-07 19:17:56

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Ok, my 60x faster is based on using a precompiled serialized database versus Pacman's flatfile DB. As I've said: Pry doesn't yet do package installation (or even touches the pacman database), mainly because I'm afraid I might FUBAR my pacman db.
And to cactus and anyone else looking at my bad comments and/or lack of documentation: Yeah, I know, I'm sorry
If anyone has the urge to make a patch or wants to get SVN access, feel free to email me at Jesse [at] mindtriggerz [dot] net or talk to me on IRC (FlashHater)
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#11 2006-05-07 19:22:06

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

mindtriggerz wrote:

And to cactus and anyone else looking at my bad comments and/or lack of documentation: Yeah, I know, I'm sorry

oh snap!
wink


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#12 2006-05-07 19:23:19

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

mindtriggerz wrote:

Ok, my 60x faster is based on using a precompiled serialized database versus Pacman's flatfile DB. As I've said: Pry doesn't yet do package installation (or even touches the pacman database), mainly because I'm afraid I might FUBAR my pacman db.
And to cactus and anyone else looking at my bad comments and/or lack of documentation: Yeah, I know, I'm sorry
If anyone has the urge to make a patch or wants to get SVN access, feel free to email me at Jesse [at] mindtriggerz [dot] net or talk to me on IRC (FlashHater)
^-^
--Jesse

Jesse,

I think that a good idea would be to draw up a TODO list for all the necessary features to get a fully-functioning pacman replacement. Then, contributors can take a look at the list and assign tasks to themselves that they are interested in.

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#13 2006-05-07 19:24:29

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Ya know, it probably isn't worth duplicating the pacman 2.X series, as pacman 3 is on the horizons.  You should probably check out cvs for that.

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#14 2006-05-07 19:32:12

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

arooaroo wrote:
mindtriggerz wrote:

Ok, my 60x faster is based on using a precompiled serialized database versus Pacman's flatfile DB. As I've said: Pry doesn't yet do package installation (or even touches the pacman database), mainly because I'm afraid I might FUBAR my pacman db.
And to cactus and anyone else looking at my bad comments and/or lack of documentation: Yeah, I know, I'm sorry
If anyone has the urge to make a patch or wants to get SVN access, feel free to email me at Jesse [at] mindtriggerz [dot] net or talk to me on IRC (FlashHater)
^-^
--Jesse

Jesse,

I think that a good idea would be to draw up a TODO list for all the necessary features to get a fully-functioning pacman replacement. Then, contributors can take a look at the list and assign tasks to themselves that they are interested in.

I kinda already have one on the development status page
I might go and set up a page on the UCB wiki.
EDIT: Looks like you can't get write access to the UCB wiki without permission. RubyForge has a wiki, so http://pry.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl


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#15 2006-05-08 21:19:49

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Wiki is updated! And I have divided up the major steps for development to get package installation working.


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#16 2006-05-08 21:22:06

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

Nice one. I'm tempted, although I need to start reading up on Ruby.

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#17 2006-05-09 10:43:09

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Re: [IN DEVELOPMENT] Pry - A Pacman Replacement/Substitute

I recomend you browse through the online version of Programming Ruby to get a feel for the language and then read _why's poignant guide to ruby
Warning: why's guide just might break your brain. beware of cartoon foxes and chunky bacon.


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