Arch on New XPS 15(Late 2015)

WishCow · 2016-06-23 14:45:00

Anyone else have a problem of taps not registering on the touchpad after an upgrade to 4.6.2? Scrolling, panning, clicking works, but if I just tap it, nothing happens. Previously it registered tapping as clicking.

aterocana · 2016-06-23 14:51:10

WishCow wrote:

Anyone else have a problem of taps not registering on the touchpad after an upgrade to 4.6.2? Scrolling, panning, clicking works, but if I just tap it, nothing happens. Previously it registered tapping as clicking.

I think you still have Synaptics (xf86-input-synaptics package). If so you have to configure it, otherwise you can install libinput (xf86-input-libinput) and remove xf86-input-synaptics package.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput

sunite · 2016-06-23 14:51:44

aterocana wrote:

WishCow wrote:
Anyone else have a problem of taps not registering on the touchpad after an upgrade to 4.6.2? Scrolling, panning, clicking works, but if I just tap it, nothing happens. Previously it registered tapping as clicking.
I think you still have Synaptics (xf86-input-synaptics package). If so you have to configure it, otherwise you can install libinput (xf86-input-libinput) and remove xf86-input-synaptics package.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput

Yeah I'm not able to tap anymore either, and I have the xf86-input-libinput package installed.

Last edited by sunite (2016-06-23 14:53:14)

WishCow · 2016-06-23 15:24:30

Figured it out, for some reason my synclient call now needs TapButton* options too.

Previously I had this in my xinitrc:

synclient AreaLeftEdge=100 AreaRightEdge=1100

Now I need this for tap/2finger tap to work:

synclient AreaLeftEdge=100 AreaRightEdge=1100 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=2

Last edited by WishCow (2016-06-23 15:25:15)

aterocana · 2016-06-23 15:28:28

sunite wrote:

aterocana wrote:
WishCow wrote:
Anyone else have a problem of taps not registering on the touchpad after an upgrade to 4.6.2? Scrolling, panning, clicking works, but if I just tap it, nothing happens. Previously it registered tapping as clicking.
I think you still have Synaptics (xf86-input-synaptics package). If so you have to configure it, otherwise you can install libinput (xf86-input-libinput) and remove xf86-input-synaptics package.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
Yeah I'm not able to tap anymore either, and I have the xf86-input-libinput package installed.

But do you have also synaptics?

sunite · 2016-06-23 15:35:15

aterocana wrote:

sunite wrote:
aterocana wrote:
I think you still have Synaptics (xf86-input-synaptics package). If so you have to configure it, otherwise you can install libinput (xf86-input-libinput) and remove xf86-input-synaptics package.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
Yeah I'm not able to tap anymore either, and I have the xf86-input-libinput package installed.
But do you have also synaptics?

No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?

aterocana · 2016-06-23 15:38:37

sunite wrote:

aterocana wrote:
sunite wrote:
Yeah I'm not able to tap anymore either, and I have the xf86-input-libinput package installed.
But do you have also synaptics?
No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?

I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?
Take a look here, maybe it's useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput

Last edited by aterocana (2016-06-23 15:41:28)

sunite · 2016-06-23 15:42:41

aterocana wrote:

sunite wrote:
aterocana wrote:
But do you have also synaptics?
No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?
I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?

i3. Personally I'm to interested in touchpad tapping, I was just curious to understand if
libinput activates the tapping automatically or if its a config setting somewhere.

aterocana · 2016-06-23 15:48:04

sunite wrote:

aterocana wrote:
sunite wrote:
No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?
I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?
i3. Personally I'm to interested in touchpad tapping, I was just curious to understand if
libinput activates the tapping automatically or if its a config setting somewhere.

I see, maybe the problem is i3 doesn't have wayland. According to the wiki: "The libinput package should already be installed as a dependency of any graphical environment you use that has Wayland, and no additional driver is needed."
Then maybe you should follow the instruction there in the wiki or trying with Synaptics. Since you don't care too much I guess the answer is "if you don't use Wayland maybe it has to be configured". Sorry I couldn't help you.

sunite · 2016-06-23 15:53:26

aterocana wrote:

sunite wrote:
aterocana wrote:
I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?
i3. Personally I'm to interested in touchpad tapping, I was just curious to understand if
libinput activates the tapping automatically or if its a config setting somewhere.
I see, maybe the problem is i3 doesn't have wayland. According to the wiki: "The libinput package should already be installed as a dependency of any graphical environment you use that has Wayland, and no additional driver is needed."
Then maybe you should follow the instruction there in the wiki or trying with Synaptics. Since you don't care too much I guess the answer is "if you don't use Wayland maybe it has to be configured". Sorry I couldn't help you.

No worries, thanks

Multimoon · 2016-06-24 17:00:40

aterocana wrote:

sunite wrote:
aterocana wrote:
But do you have also synaptics?
No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?
I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?
Take a look here, maybe it's useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput

Really? I don't have the tap option under gnome, I had to enable it using

synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1

Also, has anyone figured out what module is needed for fan speed monitoring? sensors-detect doesn't pick it up.

aterocana · 2016-06-24 18:46:34

Multimoon wrote:

aterocana wrote:
sunite wrote:
No, never had the package installed. With libinput, do I need to configure the tapping?
I hadn't. I simply enabled tap on Gnome settings. Which DE do you use?
Take a look here, maybe it's useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
Really? I don't have the tap option under gnome, I had to enable it using
synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1
Also, has anyone figured out what module is needed for fan speed monitoring? sensors-detect doesn't pick it up.

Yes, I didn't have to run that command. I didn't have the tap option when I had Synaptics.

aterocana · 2016-06-28 18:26:39

Today the touch screen doesn't work. Even with xinput --list the result is:
> xinput --list
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ DLL06E4:01 06CB:7A13 Touchpad id=12 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=15 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Integrated_Webcam_HD id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Intel HID events id=13 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=16 [slave keyboard (3)]

I can't see any touchscreen, is it the same for you?

> lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0a5c:6410 Broadcom Corp.
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:6713 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Reading here it seems I don't have this line:
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f3:21d5 Elan Microelectronics Corp.

Last edited by aterocana (2016-06-28 18:56:11)

Tallix · 2016-07-08 21:27:52

I have a brand new XPS 15 9550. I got the model with the 32GB SSD (which is used for caching only if I understand correctly) and the 1 TB spinning hard drive. I would like to dual boot Windows and Arch on it, but every time I change SATA operation from "RAID On" in the BIOS Windows fails to find the boot device, even after booting into safe mode. Does anybody know what I should do to get Windows to boot while SATA operation is set to AHCI so that I can boot Arch alongside Windows?

EDIT:

I have also tried turning off Windows 10's hybrid shutdown/fast boot feature to no avail.

I've been able to boot into the arch installation media and something interesting I noticed was that while in RAID On mode, lsblk shows no partitions on either of the drives in the laptop. However, when booting the arch installation medium while in AHCI mode, no partitions are shown for the 32 GB SSD while 5 partitions are shown for the 1 TB HDD:

/dev/sdb1 is 500M. gdisk says the name of this partition is "EFI system partition"
/dev/sdb2 is 128M. gdisk says the name of this partition is "Microsoft reserved ..."
/dev/sdb3 is 919.3G. gdisk says the name of this partition is "Basic data partition"
/dev/sdb4 is 450M gdisk gives no name for this partition.
/dev/sdb5 is 11.2G gdisk gives no name for this partition.

gdisk finds no partition table on /dev/sda (the SSD) and finds a "valid GPT with protective MBR" on /dev/sdb (the 1 TB HDD).

Last edited by Tallix (2016-07-08 21:45:33)

OdinEidolon · 2016-07-08 21:31:47

Tallix wrote:

I have a brand new XPS 15 9550. I got the model with the 32GB SSD (which is used for caching only if I understand correctly) and the 1 TB spinning hard drive. I would like to dual boot Windows and Arch on it, but every time I change SATA operation from "Raid On" in the BIOS Windows fails to find the boot device, even after booting into safe mode. Does anybody know what I should do to get Windows to boot while SATA operation is set to AHCI so that I can boot Arch alongside Windows?

99% of people seem to suggest that rebooting in safe mode should fix it in Windows...

Tallix · 2016-07-08 21:48:34

OdinEidolon wrote:

99% of people seem to suggest that rebooting in safe mode should fix it in Windows...

I think it has something to do with the two hard drive configuration. I haven't seen anybody say what to do for that...

Dell has some sort of hybrid/RAID system set up so that the HDD is the main storage device and the SSD is used for caching. Turning off RAID On in the BIOS probably breaks this somehow, and I have no idea how to get Windows to simply use the HDD normally and ignore the SSD...

EDIT: In Windows, only one device is shown (C:\). There is no distinction between the HDD and SSD.

Last edited by Tallix (2016-07-08 21:49:54)

Tallix · 2016-07-08 22:22:04

Okay, I figured it out. In Windows, there is an application called Intel Rapid Storage Technology (or something similar). In it, you have to disable the array and reset the SSD to "available." Then Windows can boot in AHCI mode and the SSD will be unused by Windows.

EDIT: clarity/grammar

Last edited by Tallix (2016-07-09 06:07:15)

OdinEidolon · 2016-07-10 18:51:42

Tallix wrote:

Okay, I figured it out. In Windows, there is an application called Intel Rapid Storage Technology (or something similar). In it, you have to disable the array and reset the SSD to "available." Then Windows can boot in AHCI mode and the SSD will be unused by Windows.
EDIT: clarity/grammar

Sorry I was not able to help you. I have the same setup (but I replaced the HDD with an SSD), but I first replaced the disk and only afterwards set AHCI and installed windows from scratch.

Last edited by OdinEidolon (2016-07-10 18:52:08)

Tallix · 2016-07-10 21:41:08

OdinEidolon wrote:

Sorry I was not able to help you. I have the same setup (but I replaced the HDD with an SSD), but I first replaced the disk and only afterwards set AHCI and installed windows from scratch.

It's okay ? It didn't take too long to track down Intel's Rapid Storage Technology as the culprit, and now the information is out there for others who need it.

WishCow · 2016-07-16 11:58:09

Tallix wrote:

Okay, I figured it out. In Windows, there is an application called Intel Rapid Storage Technology (or something similar). In it, you have to disable the array and reset the SSD to "available." Then Windows can boot in AHCI mode and the SSD will be unused by Windows.
EDIT: clarity/grammar

Can you actually use the 32GB SSD as a "normal" drive? Can I format a filesystem to it?

Tallix · 2016-07-16 20:14:36

WishCow wrote:

Can you actually use the 32GB SSD as a "normal" drive? Can I format a filesystem to it?

Yes, after disassembling the array the SSD and HDD act like normal storage devices. You can modify the two independently and write a file system to the now empty SSD. All of the Windows data (and any other data that was on the array) remains intact on the HDD.

moismailzai · 2016-07-16 23:51:57

n/a

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OdinEidolon · 2016-08-15 08:33:02

If you have random freezes, try disabling pm_async. See here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 0#p1647580
and previous posts on the same topic. It's working for me, but maybe it's too early to tell.

OdinEidolon · 2016-08-15 10:19:25

Using SMBIOS I found the following BIOS tokens:

  Token: 0x034d - Unobtrusive Mode (Enable)
  value: bool = false
   Desc: When enabled, pressing Fn+B will toggle light emissions from the system
         
================================================================================
  Token: 0x034e - Unobtrusive Mode (Disable)
  value: bool = true
   Desc: When disabled, the hotkey Fn+B is disabled and will not toggle light em
         issions from the system

Does someone know if these are options to disable the power LEDs which are so annoying when watching movides? Can I toggle them safely?

xsmile · 2016-08-26 04:23:06

OdinEidolon wrote:

Does someone know if these are options to disable the power LEDs which are so annoying when watching movides? Can I toggle them safely?

My Latitude E6430 has the same option and it can be configured in the BIOS. It turns off all LEDs, the display and the sound.

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