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#726 2016-07-14 22:48:18

Alad
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Well I made a script:

#!/bin/bash
LIBRARY=${LIBRARY:-'/usr/share/makepkg'}

for lib in "$LIBRARY"/*.sh; do
        source "$lib"
done

Timing it:

time ./test.sh
./test.sh  0.03s user 0.00s system 89% cpu 0.030 total

Testing youtube-dl-git:

time mksrcinfo
mksrcinfo  0.05s user 0.00s system 56% cpu 0.089 total

vs.

time makepkg --printsrcinfo > .SRCINFO
makepkg --printsrcinfo > .SRCINFO  0.30s user 0.02s system 68% cpu 0.470 total

So the difference (0.25s) is more than from the sourcing (0.03s). The amount of commands run is more revealing:

% bash -x mksrcinfo |& wc -l 
1015
archie@thinkpad ~/.cache/aursync/youtube-dl-git % bash -x makepkg --printsrcinfo > .SRCINFO |& wc -l
5233

In other words, it's a significant difference if you're going over a large amount of PKGBUILDs. Either way, use what you prefer.

Last edited by Alad (2016-07-14 22:50:11)


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#727 2016-07-15 16:15:53

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Well, I didn't bother to actually check how long each takes. yikes

So maybe it is the lint_pkgbuild checks.
Or, --printsrcinfo doesn't disable $SIGNPKG so it has to check for your GPG key. Which is wasteful.

But I think we have dragged the thread offtopic enough for today.


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#728 2016-07-21 20:09:47

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Gave up on waiting to get Mate 1.14 - in GTK3 - to be integrated into community. Switched to Xfce (and thunar-git to workaround a copy and paste crasher bug).

I will help using virtual machines, but as long as there is not an updated Mate in community...

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#729 2016-08-06 21:31:50

CharliePrm88
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hi everybody,
any news?
I just received an update for the mate-themes from the community repo.
maybe a new Maintainer have been assigned?
Appreciating your work,
Charlie

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#730 2016-08-06 22:41:35

fredbezies
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

All mate 1.14.x is getting built for staging with some changes for some packages. Looks like Mate 1.14.x will be released this month on community... Or, let's hope so !

Just looking at arch-commits mailing list and it smells good big_smile

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#731 2016-08-07 11:37:07

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Looks like both mate 1.14.x/mate-extra 1.14.x (gtk2 and 3) are in community-testing...

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sor … =&flagged=

This is for x86_64... Yummy smile

Reported two bugs which were fixed. At least, Mate 1.14.x will be in community within a week. Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss smile

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#732 2016-08-07 21:33:46

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Mate 1.14.1 is on community... Wow... It was long to upgrade, but quick to migrate from community-testing to community ! Eadrom github repository is now useless...

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#733 2016-08-08 03:48:17

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

For any blind Mate users: just upgraded to Mate 1.14.1 and I can report that the orca screenreader accessibility works fine without any tinkering after a reboot; I start Mate with startx and the same old xinitrc code. I think it's safe.

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#734 2016-08-08 07:43:00

CharliePrm88
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

fredbezies wrote:

Mate 1.14.1 is on community

Very happy to hear that. hope that we will have support for future version.

hooray to the new mainteinar.

Hi everybody!

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#735 2016-09-05 12:47:33

fredbezies
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

I saw that a big display bug is still not fixed for nearly 10 days... It depends only a simple rebuild of libmateweather...

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/50531

Won't it be simpler to move Mate to AUR in order to say officially it is not supported anymore in community ?

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#736 2016-09-09 09:50:07

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

fredbezies wrote:

Won't it be simpler to move Mate to AUR in order to say officially it is not supported anymore in community ?

Agree!

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#737 2016-09-09 17:54:13

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Not sure how having it on AUR would help in this case—you'd have to rebuild the package either way.

Last edited by Alad (2016-09-09 17:56:28)


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#738 2016-09-09 18:25:11

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Alad wrote:

Not sure how having it on AUR would help in this case—you'd have to rebuild the package either way.

But at least, it is clearer on Mate-Desktop support. Pulling the plug out instead of seeing it rotting to death on community is in some ways far better.

I'm using an homemade version of Mate 1.15.x, but I think having a fully working Mate 1.14.x is mandatory... At least for archlinux users with Mate big_smile

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#739 2016-09-10 19:52:33

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

fredbezies wrote:
Alad wrote:

Not sure how having it on AUR would help in this case—you'd have to rebuild the package either way.

But at least, it is clearer on Mate-Desktop support. Pulling the plug out instead of seeing it rotting to death on community is in some ways far better.

I'm using an homemade version of Mate 1.15.x, but I think having a fully working Mate 1.14.x is mandatory... At least for archlinux users with Mate big_smile

Volunteers/patches welcome if it's SOOO mandatory.

Last edited by Anonymo (2016-09-10 19:53:01)

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#740 2016-09-10 20:12:00

fredbezies
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Anonymo wrote:
fredbezies wrote:
Alad wrote:

Not sure how having it on AUR would help in this case—you'd have to rebuild the package either way.

But at least, it is clearer on Mate-Desktop support. Pulling the plug out instead of seeing it rotting to death on community is in some ways far better.

I'm using an homemade version of Mate 1.15.x, but I think having a fully working Mate 1.14.x is mandatory... At least for archlinux users with Mate big_smile

Volunteers/patches welcome if it's SOOO mandatory.

It is a simple update of libmateweather PKGBUILD from 1.14.0 to 1.14.3 (or 1.14.4).

So, modifying one line and sha1sum... As there is no more maintainer for Mate on Community, wouldn't it be simpler and more honest to downgrade this desktop environment to AUR ?

Just asking. I'm only a simple 7 years old archlinux user, after all...

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#741 2016-09-10 20:44:46

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

I'm only a simple 7 years old archlinux user, after all...

That probably makes you the youngest Arch user ever. wink

Anyway there's little point to discuss these matters here; aur-general would be better suited.


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#742 2016-09-11 10:19:32

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Alad wrote:

I'm only a simple 7 years old archlinux user, after all...

That probably makes you the youngest Arch user ever. wink

Anyway there's little point to discuss these matters here; aur-general would be better suited.

Sorry, I meant using Archlinux since beginning of 2009.

And yes, aur-general would be more suited. But I don't want to add fuel to the fire.

It is just sad to see how one of the main desktop environment is orphaned on community sad

End of topic for me. Whishing everybody a good day.

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#743 2016-09-22 14:13:41

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hi folks.  Mate 1.16 is out. Congrats to Mate team.

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#744 2016-09-22 14:49:21

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

eL_fela2 wrote:

Hi folks.  Mate 1.16 is out. Congrats to Mate team.

Build it after using Mate 1.15.x with gtk3 only enabled. Still working. Mate gtk2 is reaching its EOL... Maybe for next version ? At least, Mate gtk3 is usable on a daily basis.

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#745 2016-09-22 15:21:41

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Mate is still orphan în Arch Community. I like Mate, but I think I will switch to XFCE.

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#746 2016-09-27 12:21:26

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Mate 1.16 is now available in community repo.

I don't know where you guys get your info...

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#747 2016-10-04 08:32:11

shulamy
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

i want to "enable indicators" in the panel features but it is grayed out.

will it be imlemented in the future or do i have to install something to make it active ?

ezik

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#748 2016-10-05 12:26:16

fredbezies
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

eL_fela2 wrote:

Mate 1.16 is now available in community repo.

I don't know where you guys get your info...

For example : https://www.archlinux.org/packages/comm … ktop-gtk3/

"Maintainers:     Orphan"

I did not know Orphan was a maintainer nickname.

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#749 2016-10-17 03:32:03

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

fredbezies wrote:
eL_fela2 wrote:

Mate 1.16 is now available in community repo.

I don't know where you guys get your info...

For example : https://www.archlinux.org/packages/comm … ktop-gtk3/

"Maintainers:     Orphan"

I did not know Orphan was a maintainer nickname.


big_smile Good one, you made me laugh and I learnt something in the process. Seems to me someone did not update that piece of information ¿? There was an update a few days ago, to 1.6.1. LOve this distro.

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#750 2017-01-04 18:27:31

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hallo, i have trouble with shortcuts on Mate (Manjaro). It was all ok and than some shortcut did no more work...
Custom shortcuts but also Ctrl-x in Libreoffice...

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