Unable to switch to TTY from X server

Komodo · 2006-01-20 22:15:51

Any suggestions for why I'm unable to switch to a TTY from X? I've had this problem for a while, and it's irritating me. I'm on Xorg 7, using a dvorak layout.

Komodo

Snowman · 2006-01-20 23:58:53

If you have:
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
in xorg.conf, comment it. It is known to create this problem.

Komodo · 2006-01-21 02:54:11

Nope, sadly not :?

stonecrest · 2006-01-21 05:49:16

I have had the same issue for a long while and nodeadkeys is commented out in my config as well. *shrugs*

EmbraceThePenguin · 2006-01-21 08:52:30

Same here.

What I do is logout and then select Console Login (If you use KDM. Not sure how to do it with other login managers). Problem with this, is you have to issue a /etc/rc.d/kdm stop and start to get back to the display.

Interesting why this was overlooked when they came out with Xorg 7.

Joe

xaos5 · 2006-01-21 08:55:32

I haven't looked much into the newest version but I thought it was suppose to be more modular, maybe that extension needs to be specified in the config file?

Komodo · 2006-01-21 13:06:08

xaos5 wrote:

maybe that extension needs to be specified in the config file?

No idea man, but if anyone reading this knows a (possible) solution, I'd love to here it; it's incredible frustrating to have the occasional X crash from fiddling around and be forced to reboot to remedy the situation

Snowman · 2006-01-21 18:40:47

Did you had this problem with the xorg in current or did it appear when you upgraded to the xorg in testing?

Komodo · 2006-01-21 22:43:38

Thinking about it, I suspect the issue arose after upgrading to Xorg 7.0

gunnix · 2006-01-23 18:13:53

I seem to have the same issue. I can not get to the tty when I'm in X. If I do alt+ctrl+backspace I just get a blank screen. This happened after upgrading xorg, ati-drivers and archck kernel.

It's very strange and frustrating indeed

EDIT: ah no, ctrl+alt + F1 works to switch to the tty. Strangely I only get a blank screen when I try to escape X (logout from icewm or ctrl+alt+backspace), after that I can not get to a tty and have to reboot.

Komodo · 2006-03-28 09:28:06

I still haven't resolved this problem; has anybody got any suggested solutions? Or has anyone had the same problem and found a workaround?

n3olynx · 2006-04-05 21:00:53

i had just noticed that I was having the same problem
i changed

Option "XkbLayout" "en_US"

to

Option "XkbLayout" "us"

and now i can switch properly

riwa · 2006-04-05 23:12:08

I just had the same problem (like n3olynx) and apparently there's several keymaps that're just slightly different. Ok, I actually did three changes, so I'm not 100 %, however I'm a firm believer that it's just the name of the keymap that's struggling. I did:
Before:

XkbLayout="sv"

After:

XkbLayout="se"

Both are swedish keyboardlayouts but different key correspond differently now. For example did neither my ctrl-alt combo nor my ALT GR/MOD button work bu now everything is fine. Check your /etc/share/kdm (i think) for a complete list of keymaps. (A reference to the folder with the keymaps can be found in /etc.rc.config).

/Richard

Snowman · 2006-04-06 01:06:56

riwa wrote:

Check your /etc/share/kdm (i think) for a complete list of keymaps. (A reference to the folder with the keymaps can be found in /etc.rc.config).
/Richard

Unless I'm wrong, the path in rc.conf (/usr/share/kbd/keymaps) is for console keymap. The keymaps for xorg are in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols. There is a keymap for se but not for sv. That would explain why se works better than sv. Also, some keymaps have been renamed in xorg 7.

riwa · 2006-04-06 01:26:48

Coming to think about it you're absolutely right. As I said I changed a couple of things before booting X again, I guess I got mixed up :oops:. Well, as we say in Sweden:

Errare humanum est!

8)

Komodo · 2006-04-07 11:22:19

riwa wrote:

Coming to think about it you're absolutely right. As I said I changed a couple of things before booting X again, I guess I got mixed up :oops:. Well, as we say in Sweden:
Errare humanum est!
8)

Hehe, very true!

Well I appreciate the info both of you; I looked in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, found the dvorak keyboard layout within one of the subdirectories, changed xorg.conf accordingly, and hey presto magicko! It's fixed!

I'm very grateful to you both for the info, especially since I've had no response for so long from anyone; it's incredibly frustrating to have such a great 'recovery' feature as being able to switch to a TTY being unavailable.

Cheers guys

Snowman · 2006-04-08 01:36:39

Glad you got it finally fixed

Komodo · 2006-05-24 17:26:59

Having reinstalled recently, this problem has arisen again, only now I _really_ can't see what's causing it!

There is now no dvorak keymap to be found in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols anywhere (I've looked in the subdirectories too). So that's the first problem.

The second problem is that, ignoring that issue for a minute, if I put one of the keymaps that _is_ in there (eg. 'gb') then I still can't switch to a TTY! So there must be something else in my xorg.conf that's messing things up.

patroclo7 · 2006-05-25 21:19:40

I had this problem several times (may be is the MOST discussed problem in arch forums). For me the guilty in xorg.conf was:

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"

It has to be replaced by:

Option "XkbRules" "xorg"

Komodo · 2006-05-25 23:27:59

patroclo7 wrote:

I had this problem several times (may be is the MOST discussed problem in arch forums). For me the guilty in xorg.conf was:
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
It has to be replaced by:
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"

You complete legend patroclo7; that's fixed it

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Unable to switch to TTY from X server

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Re: Unable to switch to TTY from X server

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