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king_dick

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Registered: 2016-11-16

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rx470 amdgpu-pro help

HI
Just upgraded my video card from a gtx 770 to a rx470 and after following the wiki to install the amdgpu drivers I noticed games were running worse than with the gtx 770, so I followed the arch wiki to install the amdgpu-pro drivers from aur but after a reboot I cannot log into gnome or change tty terminals. I was able to revert back to the amdgpu drivers and have a working system but the performance in games is just crap. So basically I'm begging for help getting the amdgpu-pro drivers installed and working

thanks for looking and any help you could provide

ps. kind of an idiot so I apologise in advance

Mr.Elendig

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

amdgpu-pro is often slower than amdgpu/radeon so ymmv with it anyway..... Also it is not as well maintained as amdgpu/radeon.

Which gamers are you testing with and what is the actual performance you are getting?

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king_dick

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Registered: 2016-11-16

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

I haven't done thorough testing, but I have tried Shadow of Mordor, Borderlands 2, Borderlands the pre-sequel, The gamecube/wii emulator dolphin, and everything up to dreamcast in retroarch.  Unfortunately I didn't get frame rates so this is all just from me playing them but, they are all noticeably slower and dropping frames when they didn't with my gtx770.
I installed the packages xf86-video-amdgpu, mesa-libgl, and lib32-mesa-libgl after testing and noticing the slowness I tried the git versions of mesa but that didn't show any perceivable difference.
Are there other packages I need to install for amdgpu to work properly? I also have no vulkan with the amdgpu drivers either.

Drehstromlampe

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Registered: 2015-07-18

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

shadow of mordor doesn't officially support AMD graphic cards
http://store.steampowered.com/app/241930/ System Requirements --> steamos+linux --> read more

amdgpu driver doesn't support vulkan yet (afaik)
only amdgpu-pro has vulkan support

performance can vary from game to game.
you could download the valley benchmark, run it and tell us what framerate you get. (extreme hd settings)
then we have an idea what performance the card is delivering and if there maybe is another problem.

Last edited by Drehstromlampe (2016-11-16 16:57:41)

king_dick

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

Here's the results of the valley benchmark

Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0

FPS:   
38.6
Score:   
1616
Min FPS:   
20.6
Max FPS:   
70.3
System

Platform:   
Linux 4.8.7-1-ARCH x86_64
CPU model:   
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (3410MHz) x8
GPU model:   
Unknown GPU (256MB) x1
Settings

Render:   
OpenGL
Mode:   
1920x1080 8xAA fullscreen
Preset   
Extreme HD

for some reason the rx470 4GB is showing up as an unkown gpu with 256MB of ram though...

Lone_Wolf

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extr … an-radeon/

It's far from mature though and may even be slower than using OpenGL .

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king_dick

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Registered: 2016-11-16

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

I've been testing out the vulkan-radeon and vulkan-radeon-git versions and the only vulkan program that runs is retroarch. Dolphin and vkcube just segfault. I'm going to install ubuntu 16.04 on a spare drive and install the amdgpu-pro drivers on that to see if this card is actually worth using in linux because everything I've tried on the amdgpu driver is noticeably slower than my 4 year old mid-range  nvidia card

mapintar

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Registered: 2010-04-17

Posts: 52

Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

HI
Just upgraded my video card from a gtx 770 to a rx470 and after following the wiki to install the amdgpu drivers I noticed games were running worse than with the gtx 770, so I followed the arch wiki to install the amdgpu-pro drivers from aur but after a reboot I cannot log into gnome or change tty terminals. I was able to revert back to the amdgpu drivers and have a working system but the performance in games is just crap. So basically I'm begging for help getting the amdgpu-pro drivers installed and working

thanks for looking and any help you could provide

ps. kind of an idiot so I apologise in advance

Unfortunately amdgpu-pro does not work in gnome.

Open source driver (radeonsi) crash after 4 or 5 minutes in ALL games except Dota 2. I try player for weeks in my RX 460, but in all config, kernel, mesa version, etc., etc., system freeze. Work fine in Windows 10.

AMD RX series is a very bad choice in Linux.

Drehstromlampe

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Registered: 2015-07-18

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

well your rx470 seems to deliver normal performance (in unigine atleast)
the missdetection of vram seems normal. shows me 256mb too, even though i have an r9 380x.

it seems to mee like you're actually better off with your "old" nvidia card, since it can handle the games better.

i have xonotic with pretty much max settings and 1440p running like a charm on linux. metro 2033 redux also runs like a charm.
war thunder on the other hand is total crap. no matter the graphical settings, the framerate is somewhere near 20 fps.
even the average wined game has better performance.

I'm getting the feeling that those games just run shitty on linux with amd cards, maybe because they didn't bother to optimize.
the rx470 actually has more computing power than the gtx770.
it's well known, that nvidia cards ave better linux drivers (performance wise).
but again, this seems to be more of a game-issue than a driver issue, since the amd drivers are worse but not THAT bad.

Last edited by Drehstromlampe (2016-11-18 00:38:31)

mapintar

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

well your rx470 seems to deliver normal performance (in unigine atleast)
the missdetection of vram seems normal. shows me 256mb too, even though i have an r9 380x.

it seems to mee like you're actually better off with your "old" nvidia card, since it can handle the games better.

i have xonotic with pretty much max settings and 1440p running like a charm on linux. metro 2033 redux also runs like a charm.
war thunder on the other hand is total crap. no matter the graphical settings, the framerate is somewhere near 20 fps.
even the average wined game has better performance.

I'm getting the feeling that those games just run shitty on linux with amd cards, maybe because they didn't bother to optimize.
the rx470 actually has more computing power than the gtx770.
it's well known, that nvidia cards ave better linux drivers (performance wise).
but again, this seems to be more of a game-issue than a driver issue, since the amd drivers are worse but not THAT bad.

My RX 460 performance in Linux is not bad. Currently, is 80 at 85 % Window 10 performance. But is impossible to play because system freeze permanently, and there is no patch, config or other way to solution.

Cerbereus

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Registered: 2008-10-06

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Re: rx470 amdgpu-pro help

well you should test all the mesa git and radeon git, remember to config with dri 3 on check the arch wiki, it performs better. I have an rx 480 using just amdgpu non pro, for me are better than the pro, if you need to run vulkan you can do it just with radv the only problem that I have now is for some reason dota 2 with opengl stop working that make freeze my pc, but with radv play very well.
Maybe are the mesa or just update of source engine who knows.