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#1 2016-11-22 10:41:40

thebailers
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Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Hey everyone,

I am very new to Arch, and am trying to customise the OS to my liking so playing around with desktop environments.

O would like to give Pantheon a go, but the docs have just confused me I am afraid. I wondered if there was anyone who could give me a few pointers as to how to setup Pantheon to work alongside Gnome Shell so I can try it out?

I wanted to get it from the repository but am a bit apprehensive about how to start. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon

Many thanks smile

Last edited by thebailers (2016-11-24 13:44:58)

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#2 2016-11-22 10:58:32

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

What's not clear on the wiki?

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#3 2016-11-22 11:03:48

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

The wiki does leave some info out. Looking at the pkgbuilds on his github, it seems that you can just install the 'pantheon' group once you have the repo added (or 'pantheon-unstable' if you want the unstable version)

If you don't know how to AUR or add repositories, read the following links to get a better understanding of how Arch works:
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … positories
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … nd_mirrors
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Of … positories
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … Repository
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System

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#4 2016-11-22 11:05:17

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

The process to follow - I have added the lines to my pacman.conf to use the repositiory, but it is what step to follow next ... I am just a little bit lost.

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#5 2016-11-22 11:09:04

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

runical wrote:

The wiki does leave some info out. Looking at the pkgbuilds on his github, it seems that you can just install the 'pantheon' group once you have the repo added (or 'pantheon-unstable' if you want the unstable version)

If you don't know how to AUR or add repositories, read the following links to get a better understanding of how Arch works:
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … positories
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … nd_mirrors
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Of … positories
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … Repository
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System

Perfect -thanks so much, will have a read.

One thing, in the wiki article, it mentions adding the pantheon repository lines to the top of the sources in /etc/pacman.conf - I just put this in at the top, but should there be a sources section where I need to add it? Can't see a sources section.

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#6 2016-11-22 11:26:32

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

The repositories are listed at the bottom of pacman.conf. That is the 'sources section' the wiki is referring to, so putting it at the top means you put it above [core].

I'll have to warn you though. Adding it as the first repo also means that the packages in the pantheon repo will have the highest priority. This means that if the pantheon repo contains packages also in another repo, it will install the packages from the pantheon repo. This might cause trouble, so I'd warn against it. At least put it under [core]

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#7 2016-11-22 14:08:17

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Thank you, I added it to the bottom.

I have ran the following commands in the terminal:

sudo pacman -S elementary-icon-theme-bzr elementary-wallpapers-bzr gtk-theme-elementary-bzr lightdm-pantheon-greeter-bzr pantheon-default-settings-bzr pantheon-files-bzr pantheon-terminal-bzr switchboard-bzr

sudo pacman -S wingpanel-bzr
sudo pacman -S pantheon-terminal-bzr
sudo pacman -S wingpanel-indicator-network-bzr
sudo pacman -S wingpanel-indicator-session-bzr
sudo pacman -S wingpanel-indicator-sound-bzr
sudo pacman -S slingshot-launcher-bzr
sudo pacman -S wingpanel-indicator-datetime-bzr

When I initially ran the first command, I go the following:

resolving dependencies...
:: There are 2 providers available for libgranite.so=3-64:
:: Repository community
   1) granite
:: Repository pantheon
   2) granite-bzr

So I selected 2 and it installed fine.

When I restart and come to the login screen, I can't select Pantheon, only gnome, gnome-xorg etc are there.

Any ideas?

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#8 2016-11-22 14:12:59

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Update, installed pantheon-session-bzr and I have pantheon on the display manager list, but when selecting that and logging in, it just takes me to the gnome DE

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#9 2016-11-22 14:20:45

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Another reboot and it is finally running... thanks people smile

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#10 2016-11-22 15:06:38

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

You should also be able to run the stable version by running pacman -S pantheon. That might save some bandwidth and headaches.

But nice you got it working. Don't forget to mark the thread as solved (if you have no more questions that is) by editing the first post and prepending [solved] in front of the title please!

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#11 2016-11-22 15:15:32

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Thanks runical, one more quick question, is it more advisable to run the stable version?

Can I just switch to that but using pacman -R <all-previous-packages> and then running pacman -S pantheon

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#12 2016-11-22 15:24:58

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

If you don't know what you are doing exactly, it is advisable to run the stable version. It is less likely to break. Especially if the development branch is not such that it is guaranteed to run.

As for switching, yes, that is one option. Another is to just install the stable version and hope that the stable version conflicts with the unstable version. Pacman will ask if you want to remove the conflicting packages if you do this.

EDIT: Not saying you don't know what you're doing, but let's say that you might want some more experience :-)

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#13 2016-11-22 15:31:48

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Haha no problem runical, I am new to this so it is fair to say that!

Thanks for the advice, I will try that.

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#14 2016-11-22 15:39:44

runical
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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

No problem. Enjoy Arch and feel free to ask questions of the forums smile

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#15 2016-11-22 15:49:27

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Thank you smile

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#16 2016-11-24 13:46:37

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Hmmm I tried installing the stable version of Pantheon and it did prompt me to overwrite the conflicts which I did, and it is now working, except I have no Applications menu in the top left (was there before when I installed everything manually).

I can't see anything that relates to this menu in the repository, not sure what it's called.

has anyone come across this?

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#17 2016-11-24 15:06:24

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Re: Want to install Pantheon alongside Gnome but I am a tad confused

Just noticed when I switched DE, that the Elementary shell theme is missing from the list (it was there before) could this be the reason? If so, does anyone know how I reinstate it?

Thank you smile

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