Flash Player 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111eleven

stonecrest · 2006-05-27 18:49:58

I can barely contain my excitement.

http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/arch … nia_th.cfm

Gullible Jones · 2006-05-27 18:55:33

I'd rather have Gnash...

lessthanjake · 2006-05-27 19:02:31

Gullible Jones wrote:

I'd rather have Gnash...

Me too, ... maybe gnash is the reason they are finaly doing something?

stonecrest · 2006-05-27 19:08:04

Is my sarcasm really not evident? I'll have to work on that.

Gullible Jones · 2006-05-27 19:17:01

Umm... Yes it is. Where is my mind this afternoon?

(I blame the temperature. It's hard to think when things rocket up to 85 Fahrenheit. )

Romashka · 2006-05-27 19:21:42

How usable is Gnash now? I didn't tried it yet so I want to know someone's opinions.

Gullible Jones · 2006-05-27 19:41:11

IIRC it's in its alpha stage right now.

profoX · 2006-05-28 22:55:27

Yes, you recall correctly.
It's not very usable yet,
but it is a promising project.

Gullible Jones · 2006-05-28 23:02:56

I will love it especially if it just happens not to support Flash-induced popups...

Cerebral · 2006-05-28 23:06:07

Frankly, if it works better than the current flash player we have, then I'll be happy. I'll switch to gnash once it's usable, of course, and I'm eagerly awaiting that day, but if they can deliver something that works well, then so be it.

Here's hoping.

postlogic · 2006-05-29 08:40:04

Gah, so Macromedia is generally shutting Linux users out for almost a year? More and more people are using Flash 8 these days.

Cerebral · 2006-05-29 11:22:31

postlogic wrote:

Gah, so Macromedia is generally shutting Linux users out for almost a year?

I think it's less 'shutting users out' and more 'Oh crap, we need a Linux product - get started now!' - it's probably going to take that year to make something actually usable for Flash 9. I find myself wondering how much of the Flash 7 codebase they'll actually even be able to use for it.

palandir · 2006-05-29 11:39:57

Seems like it's either a big task (complete rewrite?) or related to Adobe having bought Macromedia, because Adobe is not really Linux-friendly, so they see Flash for Linux as very low priority.

In any case, it just shows that Flash will never be some kind of standard or alternative to normal website creation (what Macromedia also intended it to be), but always a joke. If you use Flash, you work against the idea of the WWW (in terms of access/interoperability). I wish more people knew that.

Thank god I only need Flash for viewing fun sites/videos, and that most/all websites requiring Flash are not important at all.

Romashka · 2006-05-29 13:05:54

Right now Flash is more than bells and whistles. It is the platform for making web applications, games and even desktop applications.
Flex is much better platform than XHTML+CSS+AJAX+server-side code. Maybe Web Apps and Web Forms 2.0 will change that, but currently only Opera supports Web Forms 2.0. Currently really real-time client-server communication is possible only with Flex.
Zinc from Multdimedia (not Macromedia) is superb tool for wrighting desktop apps in Flash.
There is also Macromedia Central - framework and client for downloading and running Flash application.

I hope, that Web Applications standard + XHTML2 + CSS3 + SVG + AJAX + DOM3 will be good alternetive to Flash Platform, but that might be only in distant future.

postlogic · 2006-05-29 15:31:41

Bah. Who needs all this bling? I like XHTML1 + CSS2. Period.

Romashka · 2006-05-29 16:07:03

postlogic wrote:

Bah. Who needs all this bling? I like XHTML1 + CSS2. Period.

Me too. But XHTML1+CSS2 were designed for web documents, not for web applications. And now there are many web applications in Internet.
For example Gmail uses HTML + CSS + JavaScript (now there is more popular word - AJAX, which really means nothing new as this existed long time ago, but now it is popular buzzword). Because of quirky code which has IE-only, Mozilla-only parts, workarounds, dirty hacks - it is too difficult to find rich web application which is standards-compliant and works good in both IE and normal browsers (Gecko-based, KHTML-based and Opera). And with only XHTML+CSS+JavsScript+DOM it is sometime very hard to make good veb applications, sometimes just because there is very limited widget set (XHTML forms). WHATWG aims to provide standards that solve this problem right now (Web Apps 1.0 and Web Forms 2.0), but only Opera 9 supports Web Forms 2.0 currently.

I'm very happy that today many popular sites are redesigned for XHTML&CSS compliance. This should be done from the beginning of HTML and CSS. But better later than never.

I don't like flash banners. flash menus etc. on HTML pages. But flash is good technology and it has its niche - rich web applications, intranet applications, desktop clients for online services, online and offline games, presentations etc. With every new version Flash moves towards this direction. Flex (along with Central and Zinc) is very good example of this.

russianpirate · 2006-06-02 14:34:47

Well I can't wait til flash 9 comes out.. flash 7 is laggy,crappy, and many websites now require flash 8

Romashka · 2006-06-02 14:48:51

russianpirate wrote:

Well I can't wait til flash 9 comes out.. flash 7 is laggy,crappy, and many websites now require flash 8

Me too. Flash 9 and Flex 2 are really cool! Add Zinc 2.5 - and they come from online to desktop too.
Let's hope there will be no delay for Flash 9 on Linux.

ScriptDevil · 2006-06-02 15:46:15

Flash is ok but what about shockwave??

Romashka · 2006-06-02 16:15:15

IMHO Shockwave and some other Macromedia's products will die.

test1000 · 2006-06-02 20:59:42

shockwave worked with wine 0.9.11 i think.. but i can't get it to install with 0.9.14.. then again i'm not using winetools which i was last time, and that's prolly why it isn't working.

ScriptDevil · 2006-06-03 02:30:27

if it does, gmes from flash are doomed

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