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#1 2017-01-22 21:32:47

Hacksaurus_Babu
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[SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Hello I have some problems about xfce-clipman starting up.

When I first installed xfce4-clipman it used to use a monochrome icon at startup, but now it uses the copy-paste icon...
I also use 2 desktop environments, XFCE and Budgie (spin-off of GNOME), and usually startup programs from XFCE also start in GNOME, but not xfce4-clipman...

A temporary fix for the monochrome icon, is to have a delay for 3 seconds like this:

bash -c "sleep 3; xfce4-clipman"

But I can't edit the autostart because it is greyed out in the autostart menu... And this is not the best fix...

Thanks for any help!

Last edited by Hacksaurus_Babu (2017-04-27 23:47:58)

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#2 2017-01-23 17:57:34

drcouzelis
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Wow, that sounds like quite the mess! sad

When did this all start happening? Was it after you did an update? If yes, which packages were updated?

My GUESS is that an automated feature of GNOME / Budgie is clobbering an automated feature of XFCE (or conversely). But this is only a guess.

One thing you can try is... Create a new user ("useradd" command as root), login using that new user, and start XFCE and xfce4-clipman. In other words, try the configuration you want with a clean, new set of configuration files. If everything works perfectly (correct icon is used, autostart works properly...) then you can pretty much be sure that the SOFTWARE PACKAGES are good but there's something in your PERSONAL CONFIGURATION that's screwed up...

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#3 2017-01-24 00:30:48

Hacksaurus_Babu
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Well... it started happening when I remove xfce4-clipman... and then added it back in...

Also I did what you suggested to me and yes, it does seem something wrong with my personal configuration which deems to be a problem...
Though it only fixed the monochrome piece of the problem, I feel like I can get away with it, not autostarting in Budgie...

Last edited by Hacksaurus_Babu (2017-01-24 01:06:53)

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#4 2017-01-25 02:12:01

toz
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

But I can't edit the autostart because it is greyed out in the autostart menu...

The reason why you can't edit the clipman autostart entry is that it comes from /etc/xdg/autostart - and you need root privileges to edit those files.

I also use 2 desktop environments, XFCE and Budgie (spin-off of GNOME), and usually startup programs from XFCE also start in GNOME, but not xfce4-clipman...

If you are trying to get the xfce4-clipman-plugin to show up in budgie, it won't. It depends on xfce4-panel running.

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#5 2017-01-25 02:13:20

Hacksaurus_Babu
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Thats interesting because blueman and network manager both autostart with me doing anything in Budgie...

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#6 2017-01-25 02:18:54

toz
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Hacksaurus_Babu wrote:

Thats interesting because blueman and network manager both autostart with me doing anything in Budgie...

xfce4-clipman-plugin is specifically programmed to use only the xfce4-panel. Blueman and network manager use a system tray, and both DE's provide their own.

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#7 2017-01-25 02:25:10

Hacksaurus_Babu
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

So editing the xfce4-clipman desktop file didn't do anything in:

/etc/xdg/autostart

but editng the desktop file in:

.config/autostart

Did actually edit it... BUT it only works for 1 login, and then it changes back to its previous state...
If I can make it stay the way I want it then it would be good...

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#8 2017-01-25 02:31:54

toz
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

Lets try this. First delete the clipman desktop file that you created in ~/.config/autostart. Then log out and while still logged out, clear your sessions cache by deleting the contents of the ~/.cache/sessions directory.

When you log back in, see if the icon is monochrome again.

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#9 2017-01-25 02:42:22

Hacksaurus_Babu
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

No dice...

Off-topic: Would it be possible to talk this through Discord or IRC... Because it looks like both us are online currently...

Last edited by Hacksaurus_Babu (2017-01-25 02:43:07)

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#10 2017-01-25 04:54:28

Hacksaurus_Babu
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Re: [SOLVED] xfce4-clipman Startup Problems

ToZ's fix:

Simply do:
Edit ~/.config/autostart/xfce4-clipman-plugin-autostart.desktop
and change TryExec and Exec to:

bash -c "sleep 1; xfce4-clipman"

Then:

sudo chattr +i ~/.config/autostart/xfce4-clipman-plugin-autostart.desktop

To make sure that file does not get overwritten.

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