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seba

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From: Villa Alemana, Chile

Registered: 2003-08-14

Posts: 23

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Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Hi to all, i have a problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Versions:

Arch Release: 0.7.2 Testing

Gnome:   2.14.1-2
D-Bus: 0.61-3

Screenshot explain all:

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sputnik

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From: Canada

Registered: 2005-06-24

Posts: 98

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Are you using gdm? If not you have to manually start a dbus session with gnome .

russianpirate

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Registered: 2006-05-17

Posts: 161

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Also.. dumb question but.. is d-bus service (/etc/rc.d/dbus) started? lol

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Blaasvis

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Registered: 2003-01-17

Posts: 467

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

change your .xinitrc....
make sure this line is in it.

exec dbus-launch gnome-session

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user

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Registered: 2006-03-29

Posts: 465

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome

try garnome and be happy!

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JGC

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Registered: 2003-12-03

Posts: 1,664

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome

try garnome and be happy!

And void all your support for archlinux.

user

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Registered: 2006-03-29

Posts: 465

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

And void all your support for archlinux.

sure.

YAGIAT

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Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Umm... Garnome would not solve a simple problem like not starting dbus.

russianpirate

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Registered: 2006-05-17

Posts: 161

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

user, u post the link to GARNOME often.. wtf are you so obsessed with it? did u invent it? lol

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user

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Registered: 2006-03-29

Posts: 465

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

Umm... Garnome would not solve a simple problem like not starting dbus.

It because /etc is /home/<user>/garnome/etc, /var is also /home/<user>/garnome/var,
Default /etc/rc.d/hal or /etc/rc.d/dbus guess it's dir is /usr/bin/ or something.

This can be changed by modifying the some configuration of Garnome,
or changing default install dir(/home/<user_account>/garnome) to /usr.
(NOTE: this is NOT recommended if you are using stock gnome from the distro, i did installed arch linux console only, and installed the garnome lately, i will try garnomized-Xorg-7.1 myself)

BUT, it really weird, because i didn't even started dbus or hal, but my firefox or epiphany works fine for me.

user, u post the link to GARNOME often.. wtf are you so obsessed with it? did u invent it? lol

no, but i like garnome so much(especially the idea /home/<user_account>/garnome), even i did bug-report several time, i garnome-fanatic!

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iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

Posts: 4,927

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

user: garnome is entirely irrelevant here, please stop promoting methods that are offtopic and unsupported.

the issue here is not the system wide message bus, launched in /etc/rc.d/dbus, but the session message bus, which, if you use xinitrc, is not started by default. If you use garnome and xinitrc, it's still not going to start a session bus, so that is not a solution.

anyway, "man dbus-launch" has a range of different ways to start a session dbus from your xinitrc, use whatever you find useful.

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user

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Registered: 2006-03-29

Posts: 465

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

user: garnome is entirely irrelevant here, please stop promoting methods that are offtopic and unsupported.

It is supported by gnome-ppl.
I wonder when archlinux adopt the gnome by it's default desktop?

I chose the garnome, because there is no one care about my desktop. All by myself is not bad at all as it seems look.
(For example, Xorg suck a ball now)

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Blaasvis

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Registered: 2003-01-17

Posts: 467

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

then you should go to the gnome forums and promote it.
if archlinxu would drop gnome it would be another story, JGC and i work hard to give you guys a complete gnome and resolve bugs in gnome and kick patches upstream.
Arch will never have one default desktop, not kde not gnome not fluxbox.
All are equal, and what "sucks a ball" about xorg ?

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user

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Registered: 2006-03-29

Posts: 465

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

1> then you should go to the gnome forums and promote it.

2>if archlinxu would drop gnome it would be another story, JGC and i work hard to give you guys a complete gnome and resolve bugs in gnome and kick patches upstream.

2-1>Arch will never have one default desktop, not kde not gnome not fluxbox.

3>All are equal, and what "sucks a ball" about xorg ?

1>then i can't promote garnome on this forum??

2>You don't have to, garnome2.14.2.1(481kb) download the patches and patch it automatically, just change install dir to /usr
(ONLY if you are using console-linux who want gnome a try). of course there is need small arch related patch.(in my experience 0)

2-1>Well said, so choice is the each one's freedom.
and this category isn't arch, this is Desktop Environments,
i installed arch, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEANS I SHOULD USE gnome FROM ARCH!!!

ARCH != gnome

3>some bug stuff about Xorg-7.0, include mine
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=22210

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Blaasvis

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Registered: 2003-01-17

Posts: 467

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

1>then i can't promote garnome on this forum??
yeah you can, but not as a solution to gnome related problem in arch. cause this doesn't resolve anything.

2>You don't have to, garnome2.14.2.1(481kb) download the patches and patch it automatically, just change install dir to /usr
(ONLY if you are using console-linux who want gnome a try). of course there is need small arch related patch.(in my experience 0)

eh, i haven't got a clue what this means, putting patches upstream means they will get include in gargnome and upstream releases. i only tried to say we put a lot of our free time in gnome for arch.

2-1>Well said, so choice is the each one's freedom.
and this category isn't arch, this is Desktop Environments,
i installed arch, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEANS I SHOULD USE gnome FROM ARCH!!!

agreed, but again then we won't support your desktop.

ARCH != gnome

3>some bug stuff about Xorg-7.0, include mine
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=22210[/quote]

ah bugs.archlinux.org so it can be fixed.

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soffcore

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Registered: 2004-04-27

Posts: 42

Re: Problem with Gnome and D-Bus

To answer the original question:

in your rc.conf file make sure that avahi-daemon is before dbus.  As well, in your .xinitrc file use:

exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session

to start your gnome desktop and all is well.