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Pastah

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Registered: 2017-04-16

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Fresh Install, Stutters

My specs:
RAM: 16 GB DDR4/5 (can't remember)
CPU: i7-7700k
GFX: Nvidia 560 Ti
Mobo: Asus Prime Z270-k

This is my first install of arch linux. I believe I am running Gnome on Xorg. I get rare random stutters in the gnome DE when I am playing music from a youtube video in firefox also when I am playing a youtube video from VLC. I notice that Gnome has its window animations when you switch windows freeze very quickly. The sound doesn't freeze however. It's not tearing and it doesn't look tearing, I already tried setting the pipeline. I am using the nvidia package for the graphics driver. I cannot believe I am getting stutters with my specs as I never had any issues of stuttering when I was wWindows before.

DMESG: https://ptpb.pw/96z2
Xorg.0.log: https://ptpb.pw/F21m
vdpauinfo: https://ptpb.pw/VzKQ

EDIT: Ended up reinstalling.

#19 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p1704958

.... and ran nvidia-xconfig....

FYI, don't do this. It causes more harm than good.

Also, what is the output of:

uname -a

Linux Archy 4.10.10-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 12 18:50:28 CEST 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I ended up doing a reinstall and now I am using Awesome WM through startx by .xinitrc.
I just noticed that while listening to a youtube from firefox, that I get small stutters (or lag) while scrolling with my mouse wheel in xfce4-terminal. It just doesn't feel as responsive and after I scroll spam with the mouse wheel, I notice it's more responsive.

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-17 18:24:21)

Slithery

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I believe I am running Gnome on Xorg.

How do you not know what you are running, you have had to specifically install everything.

How did you install Arch?

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Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I believe I am running Gnome on Xorg.

How do you not know what you are running, you have had to specifically install everything.

How did you install Arch?

Well I haven't double checked if it's running what it should.
I installed xorg-server, then installed the nvidia package and ran nvidia-xconfig. Then installed the xfce4 package, installed GDM, logged into GDM, notice everything looks like gnome since I didn't know how to use GDM at the time. Installed firefox to see if it works, and it did but realized how I messed everything up so I decided to go with gnome to see if I'll get less issues. I did pacman -R xfce4, then installed gnome-extra (thought it would include gnome), logged in and notice many things missing and not working. Then installed the package gnome.
I installed pulsaaudio afterwards and did some small changes like sudoers file, irc client, etc.

Should I just do another fresh install?

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-16 15:59:35)

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

Did you read the wiki pages Xorg, NVIDIA, GDM, GNOME, Xfce or PulseAudio?

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

Did you read the wiki pages Xorg, NVIDIA, GDM, GNOME, Xfce or PulseAudio?

Not the whole page, mainly just installation and configuration.

Should I just try another fresh install with a different DE? I don't mind.

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-16 16:20:08)

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I would not expect reinstalling the system to achieve a different result unless you changed what was installed or how it was configured and that can also be done on the existing install.
The xorg.log you posted indicates /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not in use but you stated

installed the nvidia package and ran nvidia-xconfig

Perhaps you posted an older xorg.log see Xorg#General.  I am not suggesting you should run nvidia-xconfig or use its xorg.conf just checking the log provided is the most recent.
In configuring pulse did you install pulseaudio-alsa?  I would also recomend you stop installing groups if you only want one item from it especially if you do not know if it is the group.

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I would not expect reinstalling the system to achieve a different result unless you changed what was installed or how it was configured and that can also be done on the existing install.
The xorg.log you posted indicates /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not in use but you stated

installed the nvidia package and ran nvidia-xconfig

Perhaps you posted an older xorg.log see Xorg#General.  I am not suggesting you should run nvidia-xconfig or use its xorg.conf just checking the log provided is the most recent.
In configuring pulse did you install pulseaudio-alsa?  I would also recomend you stop installing groups if you only want one item from it especially if you do not know if it is the group.

I only installed pulseaudio and left it as it was since sound was playing.

Since I have GDM, it's stating to check systemd journal.
Systemd Journal: https://ptpb.pw/SWrU

I don't know if I am running a rootless Xorg or not. So here is my ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg1..log
Xorg.1.log: https://ptpb.pw/jzmQ

Apparently I have a Xorg.0.log and a Xorg.1.log.
Xorg.0.log: https://ptpb.pw/U7Dx
Xorg.1.log: https://ptpb.pw/8RQa

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-16 16:38:49)

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

PulseAudio#ALSA  explains why I suggest installing pulseaudio-alsa although Gnome itself uses pulseaudio directly I am not sure which backend firefox or vlc will use by default.

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

PulseAudio#ALSA  explains why I suggest installing pulseaudio-alsa although Gnome itself uses pulseaudio directly I am not sure which backend firefox or vlc will use by default.

So should I pacman -R pulseaudio and then install the specific package?

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

No install it in addition to pulseaudio.

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

No install it in addition to pulseaudio.

It says it reinstalled when I pacman -S pulseaudio-alsa. "lsmod | grep oss" gives nothing.

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I already tried setting the pipeline.

What exactly does this mean?  Other things to check run top and see if there are any resource spikes when the issue occurs.  Run `vlc -v` from the console with and check if there are are any warnings from pulse/alsa.

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

I already tried setting the pipeline.

What exactly does this mean?  Other things to check run top and see if there are any resource spikes when the issue occurs.  Run `vlc -v` from the console with and check if there are are any warnings from pulse/alsa.

I tried nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }". gnome-system-monitor isn't showing any large usage with vlc.
My VLC log is stating: [0000000000da0848] pulse audio output warning: starting late (-13237 us)
My VLC log: https://ptpb.pw/7xeA

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

If you do not set that or set it to off does it make any difference?

 nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"

Did you ever try xfc4? ( you would have had to select it from gdm )  If yes did it make a difference?
If not trying a different DE/WM is the last suggestion I have.
Edit:
spelling ever not every

Last edited by loqs (2017-04-16 17:50:03)

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

If you do not set that or set it to off does it make any difference?

 nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"

Did you ever try xfc4? ( you would have had to select it from gdm )  If yes did it make a difference?
If not trying a different DE/WM is the last suggestion I have.
Edit:
spelling ever not every

No it makes no different sett that on or off.
I never tried xfc4. I was thinking of just trying a different DE, what DM is recommended to use with xfce4?

Should I also pacman -R all the gnome things like gnome, gnome-extra, and gdm?

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-16 18:11:40)

loqs

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

Should I also pacman -R all the gnome things like gnome, gnome-extra, and gdm?

As long as gdm is disabled and stopped having the packages present on the system should not make a difference.
To simplify things I would not use a DM until the issue is resolved but use startx.

Pastah

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

Should I also pacman -R all the gnome things like gnome, gnome-extra, and gdm?

As long as gdm is disabled and stopped having the packages present on the system should not make a difference.
To simplify things I would not use a DM until the issue is resolved but use startx.

I'm on xfce4 using xinit now, I see tears and stutters while scrolling. This is without watching youtube.

Last edited by Pastah (2017-04-16 20:04:19)

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

.... and ran nvidia-xconfig....

FYI, don't do this. It causes more harm than good.

Also, what is the output of:

uname -a

Last edited by mrunion (2017-04-17 13:54:26)

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Pastah

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Registered: 2017-04-16

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Re: Fresh Install, Stutters

.... and ran nvidia-xconfig....

FYI, don't do this. It causes more harm than good.

Also, what is the output of:

uname -a

Linux Archy 4.10.10-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 12 18:50:28 CEST 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I ended up doing a reinstall and now I am using Awesome WM through startx by .xinitrc.
I just noticed that while listening to a youtube from firefox, that I get small stutters (or lag) while scrolling with my mouse wheel in xfce4-terminal. It just doesn't feel as responsive and after I scroll spam with the mouse wheel, I notice it's more responsive.