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#1 2017-05-12 16:39:13
- tedbell
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- Registered: 2012-08-04
- Posts: 167
[SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Hi,
I am having an issue with power management on my Acer V3-772G laptop. I would like to get my temps near or on par with Windows.
In windows, my temps go as low as 35 degrees and average between 40 and 50 degrees. In Arch my temps do not go below 60 degrees often. In fact, my temps sometimes are as low as I'd like them to be when coming out of sleep mode.
My specs are:
Acer V3-772G-9634
Ram: 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
CPU: Intel i7-4702MQ 2.2ghz (3.2 turbo), overclocked in bios "extreme edition" to 34 (core 1), 33 (core 2), 31 (cores 3 and 4).
2 1TB HDDS
Nvidia Optimus technology, GTX 760M & intell 4600
I have thermald and cpupower both installed and enabled via systemd.
Thermald doesnt give me any errors on boot but cpupower does when I choose a governor other than "powersave" or "performance".
Looking at htop on boot my CPU usage is between 20 and 30 percent.
I should also mention that the only thermal module I detected with lm_sensors is "coretemp"
Here's some relevant config info:
/etc/default/cpupower:
# Define CPUs governor
# valid governors: ondemand, performance, powersave, conservative, userspace.
governor='powersave'
# Limit frequency range
# Valid suffixes: Hz, kHz (default), MHz, GHz, THz
min_freq="800Mhz"
max_freq="3400MHz"
# Specific frequency to be set.
# Requires userspace governor to be available.
# Do not set governor field if you use this one.
#freq=
# Utilizes cores in one processor package/socket first before processes are
# scheduled to other processor packages/sockets.
# See man (1) CPUPOWER-SET for additional details.
#mc_scheduler=
# Utilizes thread siblings of one processor core first before processes are
# scheduled to other cores. See man (1) CPUPOWER-SET for additional details.
#smp_scheduler=
# Sets a register on supported Intel processore which allows software to convey
# its policy for the relative importance of performance versus energy savings to
# the processor. See man (1) CPUPOWER-SET for additional details.
#perf_bias=
# vim:set ts=2 sw=2 ft=sh et:Thanks all
Last edited by tedbell (2017-05-14 16:24:55)
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#2 2017-05-12 17:49:03
- exadrid
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- From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
- Registered: 2010-01-27
- Posts: 29
Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Could you please post the output of top?
top -n 1 -b > top-output.txt Offline
#3 2017-05-12 17:59:34
- loqs
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- Registered: 2014-03-06
- Posts: 19,114
Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Thermald doesnt give me any errors on boot but cpupower does when I choose a governor other than "powersave" or "performance".
If the system shows the following
$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver
intel_pstateSee CPU_frequency_scaling#CPU_frequency_driver particularly the first and third notes.
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#4 2017-05-12 21:01:13
- tedbell
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- Registered: 2012-08-04
- Posts: 167
Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Could you please post the output of top?
top -n 1 -b > top-output.txt
top - 17:00:01 up 3:37, 1 user, load average: 1.23, 1.01, 1.00
Tasks: 230 total, 1 running, 229 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu0 : 15.9/10.1 26[||||||||||||||||||||| ]
%Cpu1 : 22.7/8.8 31[||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
%Cpu2 : 12.9/7.0 20[|||||||||||||||| ]
%Cpu3 : 16.8/5.4 22[|||||||||||||||||| ]
%Cpu4 : 7.3/2.2 9[|||||||| ]
%Cpu5 : 11.1/2.1 13[||||||||||| ]
%Cpu6 : 10.6/4.7 15[||||||||||||| ]
%Cpu7 : 17.0/6.4 23[||||||||||||||||||| ]
GiB Mem : 10.7/7.672 [ ]
GiB Swap: 0.0/0.000 [ ]
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES %CPU %MEM TIME+ S COMMAND
1 root 1 0 196.0m 6.8m 0.0 0.1 0:03.34 S systemd
251 root 1 0 75.5m 19.9m 0.0 0.3 0:00.34 S `- systemd-journal
287 root 1 0 43.9m 4.9m 0.0 0.1 0:00.96 S `- systemd-udevd
406 root 1 0 14.9m 2.4m 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 S `- mount.ntfs-3g
407 root 1 0 15.1m 2.3m 0.0 0.0 0:00.25 S `- mount.ntfs-3g
416 root 41 0 33.5m 3.3m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bumblebeed
420 root 1 0 170.3m 8.7m 0.0 0.1 0:01.89 S `- thermald
421 root 1 0 43.9m 4.8m 0.0 0.1 0:00.15 S `- systemd-logind
422 dbus 1 0 39.2m 4.3m 0.0 0.1 0:01.54 S `- dbus-daemon
471 root 1 0 50.9m 3.2m 0.0 0.0 0:00.60 S `- wpa_supplicant
3693 root 1 0 6.4m 0.3m 0.0 0.0 0:00.62 S `- dhcpcd
3702 ntp 1 0 100.4m 4.5m 0.0 0.1 0:03.40 S `- ntpd
3704 root 1 0 92.8m 4.6m 0.0 0.1 0:00.21 S `- login
6571 jamie 1 0 46.4m 5.7m 0.0 0.1 0:00.24 S `- zsh
8032 jamie 1 0 13.4m 3.3m 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 S `- startx
8065 jamie 1 0 15.6m 1.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- xinit
8068 jamie 1 0 538.7m 84.5m 0.0 1.1 7:15.47 S `- Xorg
8145 root 1 0 4.1m 0.6m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- xf86-video-inte
8233 jamie 1 0 25.7m 1.3m 0.0 0.0 0:07.90 S `- bspwm
8272 jamie 1 0 32.5m 7.2m 0.0 0.1 0:38.61 S `- xcompmgr
8274 jamie 1 0 131.3m 13.3m 0.0 0.2 0:00.30 S `- trayer
8275 jamie 1 0 12.5m 2.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.84 S `- sxhkd
6022 jamie 1 0 59.9m 6.7m 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 S `- systemd
6025 jamie 1 0 101.2m 1.6m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- (sd-pam)
6033 jamie 1 0 629.4m 39.1m 0.0 0.5 0:00.85 S `- mpd
8249 jamie 1 0 39.0m 4.1m 0.0 0.1 0:00.17 S `- dbus-daemon
10114 jamie 1 0 336.3m 5.7m 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 S `- at-spi-bus-laun
10144 jamie 1 0 38.8m 3.5m 0.0 0.0 0:01.63 S `- dbus-daemon
10146 jamie 1 0 216.1m 7.4m 0.0 0.1 0:13.59 S `- at-spi2-registr
10151 jamie 1 0 274.3m 6.6m 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 S `- gvfsd
10156 jamie 1 0 403.7m 7.6m 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 S `- gvfsd-fuse
19395 jamie 1 0 347.7m 12.3m 0.0 0.2 0:00.25 S `- gvfs-udisks2-vo
19412 jamie 1 0 261.9m 5.2m 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 S `- gvfs-mtp-volume
19417 jamie 1 0 348.5m 8.5m 0.0 0.1 0:00.04 S `- gvfsd-trash
19456 jamie 1 0 422.6m 9.0m 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 S `- gvfsd-network
19462 jamie 1 0 364.6m 9.1m 0.0 0.1 0:00.37 S `- gvfsd-dnssd
19577 jamie 1 0 180.7m 4.5m 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 S `- dconf-service
26307 jamie 1 -11 258.7m 7.6m 0.0 0.1 0:02.42 S `- pulseaudio
27591 jamie 1 0 70.3m 5.8m 0.0 0.1 0:00.09 S `- gconfd-2
11942 jamie 1 0 189.8m 5.7m 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 S `- gvfsd-metadata
8259 jamie 1 0 32.9m 2.4m 0.0 0.0 0:36.97 S `- autocutsel
8260 jamie 1 0 32.9m 2.4m 6.2 0.0 0:32.44 S `- autocutsel
8281 jamie 1 0 463.0m 13.4m 0.0 0.2 0:34.00 S `- conky
8402 jamie 1 0 12.5m 2.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.14 S `- sxhkd
17600 jamie 1 0 5.7m 0.1m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- hddtemp
1498 jamie 1 0 490.4m 27.6m 0.0 0.4 0:01.05 S `- termite
1503 jamie 1 0 33.2m 5.9m 0.0 0.1 0:00.07 S `- fish
1516 jamie 1 0 490.4m 27.4m 0.0 0.3 0:01.21 S `- termite
1521 jamie 1 0 33.2m 5.9m 0.0 0.1 0:00.07 S `- fish
1534 jamie 1 0 492.1m 29.4m 0.0 0.4 0:03.19 S `- termite
1539 jamie 1 0 169.2m 6.3m 0.0 0.1 0:00.38 S `- fish
14916 jamie 1 0 970.4m 46.2m 0.0 0.6 1:30.95 S `- deadbeef-gtkui
14958 jamie 1 0 134.9m 17.3m 0.0 0.2 0:26.50 S `- ossxmix
19398 root 1 0 370.0m 10.2m 0.0 0.1 0:02.19 S `- udisksd
19402 polkitd 1 0 516.3m 16.1m 0.0 0.2 0:01.00 S `- polkitd
15874 jamie 1 0 463.0m 13.4m 0.0 0.2 0:05.22 S `- conky
26560 jamie 1 0 463.0m 13.7m 0.0 0.2 0:01.12 S `- conky
28347 jamie 1 0 463.0m 13.5m 0.0 0.2 0:15.21 S `- conky
25307 jamie 1 0 607.0m 19.5m 0.0 0.2 0:39.46 S `- conky
25308 jamie 1 0 67.2m 12.3m 0.0 0.2 1:33.31 S `- dzen2
25309 jamie 1 0 463.0m 15.6m 0.0 0.2 2:03.01 S `- conky
25310 jamie 1 0 65.3m 10.4m 0.0 0.1 1:10.00 S `- dzen2
26308 rtkit 1 1 179.9m 2.9m 0.0 0.0 0:01.66 S `- rtkit-daemon
4103 jamie 1 0 811.0m 60.9m 0.0 0.8 0:34.25 S `- spacefm
26673 jamie 1 0 891.4m 40.8m 0.0 0.5 0:04.53 S `- gvim
13918 root 1 0 305.1m 8.8m 0.0 0.1 0:00.10 S `- upowerd
18631 jamie 1 0 3640.0m 251.6m 0.0 3.2 0:14.54 S `- qutebrowser
27710 jamie 1 0 490.4m 27.1m 0.0 0.3 0:00.10 S `- termite
27715 jamie 1 0 169.2m 6.1m 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 S `- fish
27813 jamie 7 0 42.5m 4.0m 12.5 0.1 0:00.02 R `- top
2 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 S kthreadd
5 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/0:0H
7 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 6.2 0.0 0:42.51 S `- ksoftirqd/0
8 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 2:26.03 S `- rcu_preempt
9 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 S `- rcu_sched
10 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- rcu_bh
11 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/0
12 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- lru-add-drain
13 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 S `- watchdog/0
14 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/0
15 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/1
16 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 S `- watchdog/1
17 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/1
18 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:30.33 S `- ksoftirqd/1
20 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/1:0H
21 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/2
22 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 S `- watchdog/2
23 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/2
24 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:32.65 S `- ksoftirqd/2
26 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/2:0H
27 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/3
28 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 S `- watchdog/3
29 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/3
30 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:24.96 S `- ksoftirqd/3
32 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/3:0H
33 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/4
34 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 S `- watchdog/4
35 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/4
36 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:22.83 S `- ksoftirqd/4
37 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:02.45 S `- kworker/4:0
38 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/4:0H
39 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/5
40 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 S `- watchdog/5
41 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/5
42 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:21.54 S `- ksoftirqd/5
44 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/5:0H
45 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/6
46 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 S `- watchdog/6
47 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/6
48 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:20.54 S `- ksoftirqd/6
49 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.33 S `- kworker/6:0
50 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/6:0H
51 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cpuhp/7
52 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- watchdog/7
53 root rt 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- migration/7
54 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:19.80 S `- ksoftirqd/7
56 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/7:0H
57 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 S `- kdevtmpfs
58 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- netns
60 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.23 S `- khungtaskd
61 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- oom_reaper
62 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- writeback
63 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kcompactd0
64 root 1 5 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- ksmd
65 root 1 19 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:01.82 S `- khugepaged
66 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- crypto
67 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kintegrityd
68 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
69 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kblockd
70 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/9-acpi
71 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- kworker/2:1
72 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- devfreq_wq
73 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- watchdogd
78 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kswapd0
79 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- vmstat
80 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
93 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kthrotld
94 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/24-PCIe PME
95 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/25-PCIe PME
96 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/26-PCIe PME
97 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/27-PCIe PME
98 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/25-pciehp
100 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/8-rtc0
101 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- ipv6_addrconf
128 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 S `- kworker/3:1
139 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.15 S `- irq/12-i8042
141 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/1-i8042
142 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/28-rtsx_pci
145 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- ata_sff
148 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/16-ehci_hcd
149 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/5:2
150 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/23-ehci_hcd
151 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:08.44 S `- irq/29-ahci[000
152 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_eh_0
153 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_0
154 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_eh_1
155 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_1
156 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 S `- scsi_eh_2
157 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_2
158 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_eh_3
159 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_3
160 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_eh_4
161 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_4
162 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_eh_5
163 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- scsi_tmf_5
169 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:28.28 S `- irq/30-xhci_hcd
174 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
175 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
176 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
191 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 S `- kworker/5:1H
195 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 S `- kworker/1:1H
196 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 S `- kworker/2:1H
197 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 S `- kworker/3:1H
199 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- bioset
205 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-worker
208 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-worker-hi
209 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-delalloc
210 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-flush_del
211 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-cache
212 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-submit
213 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-fixup
214 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio
215 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio-met
216 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio-met
217 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio-rai
218 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio-rep
219 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-rmw
220 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-endio-wri
221 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-freespace
222 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-delayed-m
223 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-readahead
224 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-qgroup-re
225 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- btrfs-extent-re
226 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.48 S `- btrfs-cleaner
227 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:04.56 S `- btrfs-transacti
233 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 S `- kworker/0:1H
234 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 S `- kworker/6:1H
235 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 S `- kworker/7:1H
245 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 S `- kworker/4:1H
284 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:04.72 S `- kworker/2:2
285 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:03.06 S `- kworker/3:2
312 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:37.77 S `- irq/18-i801_smb
313 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- edac-poller
314 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- irq/31-mei_me
320 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- acpi_thermal_pm
323 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kmemstick
329 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:17.42 S `- irq/32-i915
331 root -2 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- i915/signal:0
332 root -2 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- i915/signal:1
333 root -2 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- i915/signal:2
334 root -2 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- i915/signal:4
335 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- cfg80211
345 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- hci0
346 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- hci0
372 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:54.50 S `- irq/18-ath9k
8366 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 43.8 0.0 118:14.95 S `- irq/22-oss_hdau
21883 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:01.49 S `- kworker/5:0
21985 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:06.09 S `- kworker/0:0
14551 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:01.55 S `- kworker/6:2
6305 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.71 S `- kworker/7:0
21031 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/1:1
29858 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/7:2
22242 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/4:2
16306 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 S `- kworker/u17:3
29399 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:03.42 S `- kworker/u16:2
4697 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.47 S `- kworker/1:0
5375 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 S `- kworker/0:1
9337 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 6.2 0.0 0:01.30 S `- kworker/u16:0
9340 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.98 S `- kworker/u16:8
15536 root 1 -20 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 S `- kworker/u17:2thanks
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#5 2017-05-12 21:12:16
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
tedbell wrote:Thermald doesnt give me any errors on boot but cpupower does when I choose a governor other than "powersave" or "performance".
If the system shows the following
$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver intel_pstateSee CPU_frequency_scaling#CPU_frequency_driver particularly the first and third notes.
Thanks for this. I decided to do away intel_pstate and now my temps are in the 50s. A little better than before.
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#6 2017-05-12 22:10:16
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Wait, you overclock your CPUs in BIOS to get more performance, then you want to use userspace tools to hinder their performance so they stay cooler even though they're already well within their safe range? This make no sense at all.
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#7 2017-05-13 04:35:52
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Wait, you overclock your CPUs in BIOS to get more performance, then you want to use userspace tools to hinder their performance so they stay cooler even though they're already well within their safe range? This make no sense at all.
I dual boot with Windows. I only use Window for gaming so I overclock for that.
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#8 2017-05-13 07:22:05
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
I decided to do away intel_pstate and now my temps are in the 50s. A little better than before.
Did you understand that you can control the pstate behavior? Are you now just running w/o any governor??
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#9 2017-05-13 10:01:11
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
I dual boot with Windows. I only use Window for gaming so I overclock for that.
Ah, that makes a little more sense. However, I still really don't see why you want your cpu cooler. You aren't having any problems relating to the heat are you? The CPUs warm up when working - you can prevent them from working (or reduce how well they work) to reduce heat, but unless/until the heat is a problem I don't see why you would want to do this.
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#10 2017-05-13 10:30:53
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
tedbell wrote:I decided to do away intel_pstate and now my temps are in the 50s. A little better than before.
Did you understand that you can control the pstate behavior? Are you now just running w/o any governor??
The acpi_cpufreq module takes over when you disable intel_pstate.
I wonder what's up with this here in the 'top' listing earlier:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES %CPU %MEM TIME+ S COMMAND
2 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 S kthreadd
8366 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 43.8 0.0 118:14.95 S `- irq/22-oss_hdauIsn't this crazy high? This is audio done through OSS and music playing in the background? I see around 2% here with alsa+pulseaudio, but my desktop CPU is set to run at full frequency at all times, and when I try to translate that to what percentage would be like with 800MHz, it still only ends up 12% or so, not 40%.
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#11 2017-05-13 11:53:53
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
top is taking 12% in that (not cpu load sorted...) output - could be peak, could be downscaled CPU, could be bad representation.
It's though actually weird enough that oss_hdaudio is loaded...
@tedbell, what's the output of "uname -a" and "lsmod"?
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#12 2017-05-13 19:49:23
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
tedbell wrote:I decided to do away intel_pstate and now my temps are in the 50s. A little better than before.
Did you understand that you can control the pstate behavior? Are you now just running w/o any governor??
I have thermald running and cpupower set to performance according to the notes on the wiki page. I don't know how to control the pstate behaviour outside of bios.
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#13 2017-05-13 19:55:01
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
tedbell wrote:I dual boot with Windows. I only use Window for gaming so I overclock for that.
Ah, that makes a little more sense. However, I still really don't see why you want your cpu cooler. You aren't having any problems relating to the heat are you? The CPUs warm up when working - you can prevent them from working (or reduce how well they work) to reduce heat, but unless/until the heat is a problem I don't see why you would want to do this.
It's a bit worrying since WIndows temps are about 20 degrees cooler. I've lost a laptop before due to heat under linux.
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#14 2017-05-13 20:00:25
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
seth wrote:tedbell wrote:I decided to do away intel_pstate and now my temps are in the 50s. A little better than before.
Did you understand that you can control the pstate behavior? Are you now just running w/o any governor??
The acpi_cpufreq module takes over when you disable intel_pstate.
I wonder what's up with this here in the 'top' listing earlier:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES %CPU %MEM TIME+ S COMMAND 2 root 1 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 S kthreadd 8366 root -51 0 0.0m 0.0m 43.8 0.0 118:14.95 S `- irq/22-oss_hdauIsn't this crazy high? This is audio done through OSS and music playing in the background? I see around 2% here with alsa+pulseaudio, but my desktop CPU is set to run at full frequency at all times, and when I try to translate that to what percentage would be like with 800MHz, it still only ends up 12% or so, not 40%.
I use OSS and I have my .asound.conf and also pulseaudio routed to OSS. However, if deadbeef isn't running then I wasn't listening to music.
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#15 2017-05-13 20:03:53
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
top is taking 12% in that (not cpu load sorted...) output - could be peak, could be downscaled CPU, could be bad representation.
It's though actually weird enough that oss_hdaudio is loaded...@tedbell, what's the output of "uname -a" and "lsmod"?
uname -a
4.10.15-1-ck-haswell #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 8 16:04:01 EDT 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linuxlsmod
oss_usb 139264 1
oss_hdaudio 163840 3
osscore 598016 2 oss_usb,oss_hdaudio
wl 6377472 0
nls_iso8859_1 16384 1
nls_cp437 20480 1
vfat 20480 1
fat 65536 1 vfat
arc4 16384 2
ath9k 126976 0
ath9k_common 32768 1 ath9k
ath9k_hw 438272 2 ath9k,ath9k_common
ath 28672 3 ath9k_hw,ath9k,ath9k_common
mac80211 688128 1 ath9k
intel_rapl 20480 0
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
intel_powerclamp 16384 0
kvm_intel 192512 0
joydev 20480 0
kvm 524288 1 kvm_intel
cfg80211 520192 5 wl,mac80211,ath9k,ath,ath9k_common
irqbypass 16384 1 kvm
crct10dif_pclmul 16384 0
crc32_pclmul 16384 0
ghash_clmulni_intel 16384 0
pcbc 16384 0
aesni_intel 167936 0
aes_x86_64 20480 1 aesni_intel
crypto_simd 16384 1 aesni_intel
broadcom 20480 1
bcm_phy_lib 16384 1 broadcom
tg3 163840 0
ptp 20480 1 tg3
pps_core 20480 1 ptp
glue_helper 16384 1 aesni_intel
fuse 98304 7
iTCO_wdt 16384 0
iTCO_vendor_support 16384 1 iTCO_wdt
uvcvideo 86016 0
cryptd 20480 3 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel
libphy 40960 3 bcm_phy_lib,tg3,broadcom
acer_wmi 20480 0
sparse_keymap 16384 1 acer_wmi
intel_cstate 16384 0
evdev 24576 18
mousedev 20480 0
input_leds 16384 0
psmouse 131072 0
i915 1396736 4
ath3k 20480 0
btusb 40960 0
intel_rapl_perf 16384 0
videobuf2_vmalloc 16384 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops 16384 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2 20480 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_core 36864 2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_v4l2
btrtl 16384 1 btusb
videodev 151552 3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2
pcspkr 16384 0
mac_hid 16384 0
btbcm 16384 1 btusb
btintel 16384 1 btusb
bluetooth 499712 6 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,ath3k,btusb
media 32768 2 uvcvideo,videodev
led_class 16384 3 input_leds,acer_wmi,ath9k
i2c_i801 24576 0
drm_kms_helper 126976 1 i915
tpm_tis 16384 0
drm 299008 5 i915,drm_kms_helper
intel_gtt 20480 1 i915
lpc_ich 24576 0
rtsx_pci_ms 20480 0
memstick 16384 1 rtsx_pci_ms
syscopyarea 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
mei_me 36864 0
mei 86016 1 mei_me
fb_sys_fops 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 i915
fjes 65536 0
rfkill 20480 5 bluetooth,acer_wmi,cfg80211
crc16 16384 1 bluetooth
shpchp 32768 0
tpm_tis_core 20480 1 tpm_tis
ie31200_edac 16384 0
edac_core 45056 1 ie31200_edac
ac 16384 0
battery 20480 0
video 36864 2 acer_wmi,i915
button 16384 1 i915
thermal 20480 0
tpm 36864 2 tpm_tis,tpm_tis_core
wmi 16384 1 acer_wmi
sch_fq_codel 20480 1
coretemp 16384 0
msr 16384 0
sg 36864 0
ip_tables 24576 0
x_tables 28672 1 ip_tables
btrfs 1036288 1
xor 24576 1 btrfs
raid6_pq 110592 1 btrfs
hid_generic 16384 0
usbhid 49152 0
hid 110592 2 hid_generic,usbhid
sr_mod 24576 0
cdrom 53248 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 49152 6
rtsx_pci_sdmmc 24576 0
mmc_core 122880 1 rtsx_pci_sdmmc
serio_raw 16384 0
atkbd 24576 0
libps2 16384 2 atkbd,psmouse
ahci 36864 4
libahci 28672 1 ahci
crc32c_intel 24576 1
libata 212992 2 ahci,libahci
xhci_pci 16384 0
ehci_pci 16384 0
scsi_mod 159744 4 sd_mod,libata,sr_mod,sg
xhci_hcd 172032 1 xhci_pci
ehci_hcd 73728 1 ehci_pci
rtsx_pci 49152 2 rtsx_pci_sdmmc,rtsx_pci_ms
usbcore 208896 9 uvcvideo,usbhid,ehci_hcd,oss_usb,xhci_pci,ath3k,btusb,xhci_hcd,ehci_pci
usb_common 16384 1 usbcore
i8042 24576 1 acer_wmi
serio 20480 9 serio_raw,atkbd,psmouse,i8042WHy is it strange that oss_hdaudio is loaded. That's the driver for OSS I use. I have disabled vmix, cooking and bumped up the interrupts though.
Thanks you for all the help guys
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#16 2017-05-13 20:09:40
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Please use a single post to respond to all questions etc. If you post is the last in the thread please use the edit feature.
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#17 2017-05-13 20:12:00
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Did you see the link to https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments … l_pstates/ - with a little luck, setting max_pref_pct shadows your overclocking in BIOS
OSS isn't "default" and the main CPU load and you're also using the ck kernel.
=> I'd at least try the behavior w/ the mainline kernel and ALSA.
No offense, but running an overclocked system with an out of tree CPU scheduler and increased interrupts on an out of tree sound driver and then you wonder about CPU temperatures?
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#18 2017-05-13 20:29:32
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
Did you see the link to https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments … l_pstates/ - with a little luck, setting max_pref_pct shadows your overclocking in BIOS
OSS isn't "default" and the main CPU load and you're also using the ck kernel.
=> I'd at least try the behavior w/ the mainline kernel and ALSA.No offense, but running an overclocked system with an out of tree CPU scheduler and increased interrupts on an out of tree sound driver and then you wonder about CPU temperatures?
OK I'll give those a try. Thanks.
I use OSS for sound quality so ALSA is not happening.
Also, I figured the ck-kernel would be more optimized for my Haswell CPU.
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#19 2017-05-14 06:58:06
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
The idea is to *TEST* the behavior with the more common setup to *UNDERSTAND* the root of your temperature problems.
If that's "not happening" you'll just remain in the dark.
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#20 2017-05-14 16:24:37
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Re: [SOLVED] Thermal issues. CPU running hot with thermald and cpupower
The idea is to *TEST* the behavior with the more common setup to *UNDERSTAND* the root of your temperature problems.
If that's "not happening" you'll just remain in the dark.
My temps are a bit more reasonable now. I've disabled the high interrupts in OSS, uninstalled cpupower and now use pstate-frequency to configure. Idle temps are in the low 50s sometimes high 40s. I'm using the performance governor with turbo off.
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