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#1 2017-07-02 11:44:06

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[SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Hi,

According to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=227794

R00KIE wrote:

Pepper-flash is in [extra] now. Arch never fails to amaze

However I am getting:

pacman -Syy                                                                                                                       (07-02 07:39)
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core                                                                              125.7 KiB  5.12M/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 extra                                                                            1664.6 KiB  16.3M/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 community                                                                           3.9 MiB  14.5M/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 multilib                                                                          176.6 KiB  6.39M/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 archlinuxcn                                                                     609.1 KiB  16.1M/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
pacman -S pepper-flash                                                                                         (07-02 06:32)
error: target not found: pepper-flash

Although:

Salkay wrote:

Ahhh… I always forget that the mirrors are slightly behind...

That was posted on June 29th a few days ago and I am just curious how long does mirrors take to be updated? And are there faster mirrors?

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#2 2017-07-02 11:49:32

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Check your mirrors

extra/pepper-flash 26.0.0.131-2
    Adobe Flash Player PPAPI

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#3 2017-07-02 11:51:04

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Have you considered that it might be you who is using an out-of-date mirror? It works fine here and I suppose it worked fine for the OP of that other thread after letting the mirror sync the change.

Moving to newbie Corner.


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#4 2017-07-02 11:57:48

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Stop now and do a full upgrade with `pacman -Syu`.  Never use pacman -Sy or pacman -Syy followed by pacman -S.  That is a partial upgrade and will lead to problems.  As a simple rule of thumb, just never use the -Sy flags without also including 'u'.

As to getting better mirrors - that's up to you, there are countless mirrors around the world, the ones that are good for us may not be for you.  But there are many methods of keeping your mirrorlist good - google them (I suggest reflector).


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#5 2017-07-02 13:01:52

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Docbroke wrote:

Check your mirrors

extra/pepper-flash 26.0.0.131-2
    Adobe Flash Player PPAPI

I checked http://mirrors.rutgers.edu/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64 and the package is missing. Although I didn't go through the rest of them, see:

Server = http://mirrors.rutgers.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://mirrors.advancedhosters.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = https://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://mirror.epiphyte.network/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = https://mirrors.rutgers.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
ROOKIE wrote:

Have you considered that it might be you who is using an out-of-date mirror? It works fine here and I suppose it worked fine for the OP of that other thread after letting the mirror sync the change.

I suppose, is there a link to the state of mirrors so I can pick the best ones?

Trilby wrote:

Stop now and do a full upgrade with `pacman -Syu`.  Never use pacman -Sy or pacman -Syy followed by pacman -S.  That is a partial upgrade and will lead to problems.  As a simple rule of thumb, just never use the -Sy flags without also including 'u'.

Are you suggesting:

pacman -Sy && pacman -Syu && pacman -S <package>

Additionally, can you point me to some documentation elobrating more in detail on how a partial upgrage can occur in this instance?

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#6 2017-07-02 13:25:12

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

No, he's suggesting

pacman -Syu

XOR

pacman -S foobar

"-Sy" updates the database, if you "-S foo" afterwards, "foo" is newer than everything else. This does not necessarily cause trouble, but can easily. And if you're not even aware of that, you're not prepared to deal with it either.

https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/
https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/?c … _status=on
Or use reflector

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#7 2017-07-02 13:32:36

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

See also: https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/

Note that rutgers.edu is listed as an Out of Sync mirror.


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#8 2017-07-02 13:43:40

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

bugsmanagement wrote:

Are you suggesting...

I'm suggesting never use -Sy.  Period.  Full stop.  Using it before pacman -S is dangerous.  Using it before pacman -Syu is pointless.  Also note you don't need separate commands for everything.  If you want to update your system and install a new package that'd be `pacman -Syu $newpkg`.

Some people even advocate using -Syu every time you want to install something new.  I don't think that's necessary as `pacman -S $newpkg` will either succeed safely or fail safely.  So you can use -S or you can use -Syu, just never use -Sy, ever.

bugsmanagement wrote:

can you point me to some documentation...

Sure: https://wiki.archlinux.org/


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#9 2017-07-02 14:06:35

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

WorMzy wrote:

See also: https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/

Note that rutgers.edu is listed as an Out of Sync mirror.

Thanks alot, I will be bookmarking that page.

Ahh thanks, I will look into using a reflector.

seth wrote:

No, he's suggesting

pacman -Syu

XOR

pacman -S foobar
Trilby wrote:

I'm suggesting never use -Sy.  Period.  Full stop.  Using it before pacman -S is dangerous.  Using it before pacman -Syu is pointless.  Also note you don't need separate commands for everything.  If you want to update your system and install a new package that'd be `pacman -Syu $newpkg`.

Some people even advocate using -Syu every time you want to install something new.  I don't think that's necessary as `pacman -S $newpkg` will either succeed safely or fail safely.  So you can use -S or you can use -Syu, just never use -Sy, ever.

Thanks for clearing up my confusion, I just needed some clarification how to properly do it on ArchLinux. I've never experience any issues in the past the way I have grown accustom to doing it, didn't know that was a problem.

Trilby wrote:

I actually have https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … and_tricks bookmarked, I'll have another look at it, must have missed this tidbit.

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#10 2017-07-02 14:14:21

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Note that the warnings about partial upgrades sometimes seem overly dramatic as people can frequently say "I've been doing it for a while with no problem".  The problem is that 9 times out of 10 a partial upgrade may be harmless, but the 10th time it could render your system completely unusable and difficult to repair.

Also if you actually ran a pacman command with the 'u' flag right after the '-Sy' that'd not actually be a partial upgrade.  E.g., either of the following are safe:

pacman -Sy && pacman -Syu
pacman -Sy && pacman -Su

They are safe, but pointless.  The first is redundant, the second just separates into two commans what can be done in one (and in either case if the secon pacman call were to fail for any reason you could end up with a partial upgrade later).


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#11 2017-07-02 14:29:54

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

Thanks, how do you mark this thread solve?

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#12 2017-07-02 14:50:40

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Re: [SOLVED] pepper-flash is missing from the repositories

bugsmanagement wrote:

Thanks, how do you mark this thread solve?

You edit your first post in the thread and add [SOLVED] to the title.


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