replacing a hard drive

philipW · 2017-07-12 09:51:43

Today i will get an new HDD in the mail and i will be replacing the drive that has my /home partition on it, my windows D: partition and a shared partition witch is formatted in ntfs witch arch and windows both can access.
If i clone my old disk to the new disk will the drive UUID's be the same? or will they change ?
What cloning software do you guys recomend?

hcjl · 2017-07-12 09:59:53

Due to the fact that it is a new disk they will change. For cloning I use dd oder clonezilla.

Slithery · 2017-07-12 10:01:44

If you clone then UUIDs stay the same.

I usually use CloneZilla.

Trilby · 2017-07-12 10:11:42

The descrepancy in the above posts is due to the bit of ambiguity in the word "clone". If you actually do a bit-for-bit clone, then yes the UUIDs stay the same. For that, I'd just use `dd`. This will not work at all if the new drive is smaller than the old drive (it needs to be at least as big as the old drive, not just the data on the old drive). Also, if the new drive is larger, cloning would be a bit of a waste as any increment in size will be completely wasted as the extra space will be unusable.

Anything other than cloning (copying, restoring a backup, etc) will result in new UUIDs. For this approach, I'd recommend rsync.

Docbroke · 2017-07-12 10:15:49

Cloning is different from making backup or simple copying.
Cloning can be done with dd, it will duplicate everything including filesystem & UUID. So if both harddisk are of the same size cloning with dd is good option.
If data is copied with rsync or cp, it will not copy filesystem, and UUID will remain different.

graysky · 2017-07-12 12:29:37

I recommend against cloning. Just partition the drive and rsync the data over to it from a live environment. Not sure how to advise you move the windows data if rsync is inappropriate.

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tom.ty89 · 2017-07-12 15:09:56

graysky wrote:

Not sure how to advise you move the windows data if rsync is inappropriate.

ntfsclone in ntfs-3g, though you voted against cloning.

Trilby · 2017-07-12 16:03:17

Why would rsync be inappropriate?

graysky · 2017-07-12 17:53:36

Trilby wrote:

Why would rsync be inappropriate?

I think it is fine, but wanted to acknowledge my ignorances with ntfs since I haven't used it in years.

R00KIE · 2017-07-12 17:59:26

For ntfs and a windows install I don't know if rsync will cut it, doesn't windows expect some things to be in a specific location or at least the location needs to be updated somewhere in some magic file?

philipW · 2017-07-12 18:56:12

Thanks for the info people,

The mailman didnt show up today so i hope il will get it tommorow.
Its gonna be a logistical drama since the device that gets a new drive is a laptop with only one drive bay so i have to take out the drive and put them in my pc and then i have them move over again to see if everything is working.
I dont think moving over the windows partition is gonna be a problem and if i copied over my linux stuff i put the drive back in my laptop and use a bootable usb and mount my / partition and then modify fstab with new uuids.
The new drive will be bigger then the old drive so i guess cloning is not an option then.

Last edited by philipW (2017-07-12 18:57:37)

philipW · 2017-07-12 19:17:09

I am also gonna put Downloads Documents Music Videos and the files i sync using owncloud on a seperate partition so if i decide to go for a tripple boot i dont have double data first i was thinking about just using 1 home partition for 2 distros but i realized that is stupid because there are also config files in there.
Do you guys know what other folders i can share between 2 or more distros to safe space.

Last edited by philipW (2017-07-12 19:17:49)

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