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#1 2017-05-26 14:05:28

89c51
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Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

While Arch in general doesn't take much time from putting upstream packages in the repos the situation with Enlightenment and EFL is kind of different. Ie. Enlightenment hasn't been updated for more than 5 months and upstream is at 0.21.8 (0.21.3 in the repos). EFL is at 1.19.1 (1.18.4 in the repos).

Obviously someone can modify the PKGBUILDS and build it for himself but that doesn't benefit all Arch/E users. So is there a way to get the PKGBUILDS reach one of the devs/TUs/etc so he can update the packages on the repos?? People mentioned that they have contacted the maintainer with no reply. (and that's fine if he doesn't have time or there are more important issues).

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#2 2017-05-26 23:30:25

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

If the maintainer does not answer email or the package is left flag out of date there are no other options that I am aware of.
See https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/a … 28858.html contemplates a lack of trusted uploaders and the number of orphaned packages.

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#3 2017-05-27 07:07:39

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Debian has the concept of non-maintainer uploads, i.e. anyone can push a package change to the repository, and there is a default timeout during which the maintainer can react (i.e. accept or reject) before it is automatically added to a more "productive" tree (remember that Debian has a slightly more complex procedure when it comes to packaging).

I don't know if this is a suitable option for Arch Linux.


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#4 2017-05-29 11:59:38

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Something like a proxy dev/TU could work. Ie sent him the pkgbuild and he gets to check it and upload the pkg to the repos. No idea though on how big the workload for the dev something like that would be.

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#5 2017-06-05 19:32:01

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Any other ideas/proposals or a solution ??????

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#6 2017-07-04 18:47:17

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Did you try contacting the maintainer? Offering to co-maintain? Any response?

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#7 2017-07-13 11:57:47

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lightdot wrote:

Did you try contacting the maintainer? Offering to co-maintain? Any response?

He didn't respond.

When a new release appears i will add PKGBUILDs here. That's all i can do.

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#8 2017-07-16 18:11:11

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Did you try to email to arch-general explaining the issue?

or try to become a tu and propose the non-maintainer-upload policity ??


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#9 2017-07-16 20:57:26

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Jristz wrote:

Did you try to email to arch-general explaining the issue?

or try to become a tu and propose the non-maintainer-upload policity ??

No and no. I am pretty sure devs know the issue. Many frequent the forums after all. Feel free to do it if you wish though. As for being a maintainer/tu/etc i am far less skilled in package stuff than many around here so it wouldn't be a good idea.

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#10 2017-07-17 11:43:17

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)


Booting with apg Openrc, NOT systemd.
Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
Aur helpers : makepkg + my own local repo === rarely need them

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#11 2017-07-17 12:26:46

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Re: Enlightenment/EFL maintenance and updates. (how users can help?)

Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:

Not everyone is interested in editing or maintaining random packages, [...]

Although I welcome the proposed push towards simplifying things for potential contributors, here it's precisely about editing packages. As a regular user, the only option so far is to nudge the maintainer and hope they fix a package. In many cases, there appears to be only a single maintainer for a package. Making it so that it's easier to become a TU (or even creating other new tasks for potential contributors) most likely won't change anything about that.

The way I perceive it (I may be wrong, but I'm certainly frustrated), it's currently:

  1. Create packages for software that haven't been packaged yet (increasingly hard) or adopt orphan packages in the AUR

  2. Maintain packages in the AUR that are popular enough to brag about

  3. Find somebody who's willing to be a sponsor

  4. Be voted as a TU

  5. Somehow (?) become a developer

  6. Maybe get permission to fix that one packaging bug

Last edited by ayekat (2017-07-17 12:27:58)


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